On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 02:22  AM, Pat Saunders wrote:

>  I am contemplating the best way to retrieve data from the server.
>  I have been mucking about using the "Pull model" and am very happy
>  with the clean manner in which I can get data from the server, and 
> present
>  it inside the web page. When it comes to doing it dynamically, I have 
> seen
>  it done with frames and basically it looks painful to code and maintain
> (and
>  many people on the net seem to agree).

I've seen your earlier posts and I'm confused by your question.
What do you mean by "doing it dynamically"?  To my way of
thinking, any template-based system (Velocity, JSP,  Perl's
HTML::Mason, ASP, Cold Fusion, Tango) is "dynamically" generating
web pages.

<anti-frames-rant>
   And any template system can replace frames in a much more
   development friendly manner.  The only thing I've ever wanted to
   do that can be done with frames and not done with templates is
   creating fixed navigation elements and a scroll-able content
   frame.  But the pain frames introduce has never been worth that
   feature, so I try to design without a need for scrolling.
</anti-frames-rant>

So now you know where I'm coming from.  8^)  I don't understand
what you mean by "doing it dynamically" nor do I understand what
frames have to do with it.

Please clear those things up and we'll see if I have anything
useful to suggest.  8^)

-Eric

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