I'd like to take a look too!!
A post to the list would be very fine!!!

Thanks in advance
Gunter M.

> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Matthew Koranda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 2002 10:44
> An: Turbine Users List
> Betreff: Re: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
>
>
> I'd really like to take a look too, it sounds like a good technique to use
> for other things as well.
> Could you post it to the list?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Weaver, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Turbine Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:43 PM
> Subject: RE: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
>
>
> > Sure,
> >
> > I actually donated a rough draft of the original into the new Turbine 3
> > project.  I will send you the most recent one I am using in production
> when
> > I get a free moment.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Wynter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:46 AM
> > > To: Turbine Users List
> > > Subject: RE: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > I just realised that what I have below is not enough. Since I
> > > use actions
> > > for all my screens (all forms you see). These need to be
> > > secured just in
> > > case someone copies a HTTP POST and uses it. So your XML
> > > definition of which
> > > permissions (or roles in my case) can use which actions and screens is
> > > looking increasingly like the only answer. Any chance of
> > > sharing the code
> > > for reading the XML file in?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Wynter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 10 April 2002 14:50
> > > To: Turbine Users List
> > > Subject: RE: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
> > >
> > >
> > > hi Scott,
> > >
> > > I had picked up on the fact you had used an XML file to
> > > define mapping from
> > > template to security from the earlier mail in the archive.
> > > This might be a
> > > bit of an overkill for me since all screens are secure and
> > > all screens are
> > > specific to a role.
> > >
> > > From what i have been reading and what you are saying I can do the
> > > following. I think?
> > >
> > > In my LoginUser.doPerform( RunData data) (common to all roles
> > > in actions
> > > directory)
> > >
> > > ...after the data.save() call...
> > >             //check if the User ( from the http request )
> > >             //has role and then setLayoutTemplate and
> > > setScreenTemplate
> > >             if( acl.hasRole("Administrator") )
> > >             {
> > >                 data.setLayoutTemplate("Admin.vm");
> > >                 data.setScreenTemplate("Admin/Welcome.vm");
> > >             }
> > >             else if( acl.hasRole("Message User") )
> > >             {
> > >                 data.setLayoutTemplate("MsgUser.vm");
> > >                 data.setScreenTemplate("MsgUser/Welcome.vm");
> > >             }
> > >             else if( acl.hasRole("Extract User") )
> > >             {
> > >                 data.setLayoutTemplate("ExtractUser.vm");
> > >                 data.setScreenTemplate("ExtractUser/Welcome.vm");
> > >             }
> > > ...
> > >
> > > The LayoutTemplates all reside in the template/layout directory and
> > > effectively replace the Default.vm. They all refer to a menu.vm in the
> > > appropriate subdirectory of the template/navigations directory.
> > >
> > > For security in each of the screens referenced by the menu.vm
> > > in each role
> > > subdirectory I have subclassed VelocitySecureScreen and called it
> > > Default.java and put it in the appropriate subdirectory (I
> > > now realise I
> > > could have just one Default.java and do what you do , get
> > > their acl check
> > > the role is appropriate for the screen). Each of these checks for the
> > > appropriate role (acl.hasRole) and directs them to the login layout an
> > > screen template if they don't have the Role.
> > >
> > > Have I covered everything here? I have just started coding
> > > this new stuff so
> > > stop me if I am making a mistake here. I must say valves in
> > > T3 sounds a much
> > > cleaner pattern and easier for old folk like me to understand.
> > >
> > > Regards and your advice is much appreciated.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Weaver, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 10 April 2002 14:09
> > > To: 'Turbine Users List'
> > > Subject: RE: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
> > >
> > >
> > > > But I am not sure how to tie this in with the screens,
> > > > do I have 3
> > > > subclasses from VelocitySecureScreen in subdirectories that
> > > match the
> > > > pattern on the template subdirectories?
> > >
> > >
> > > com.yourapp.app.modules.screens.{directory_structure_under_scr
> > > eens}.Template
> > > Name.class
> > >
> > > or if you want all screens in that directory to use the same
> > > screen class:
> > >
> > > com.yourapp.app.modules.screens.{directory_structure_under_scr
> > > eens}.Default.
> > > class
> > >
> > > > Is this the best
> > > > approach? Will it
> > > > carry over to Turbine 3?
> > >
> > > From what I know, Turbine 3 will support the classic turbine layout,
> > > navigation and screen methodology as an option.  However, I
> > > think the push
> > > will be to use the valve architecture T3 implements to
> > > provide for things
> > > like view control (templates), template security, etc.
> > >
> > > I personally have use a single screen class for my entire
> > > application.  The
> > > isAuthorized() method checks a custom xml file (using the
> > > template's name)
> > > via a session tool/service combination to figure out whether
> > > or not the
> > > template is secure and if it is secure, I use the session
> > > tool to validate
> > > the current users ACL against the requirements for that
> > > template.  This
> > > allows quite a it more flexibility then having to hard code
> > > security into
> > > individual screen classes.
> > >
> > > If you are relying heavily on code in your screen classes, I
> > > would highly
> > > recommend moving that logic into pull tools.  I say this
> > > because (someone
> > > correct me if I'm wrong) that appears to be the T3 way of
> > > doing things as
> > > opposed to screen classes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Wynter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:14 AM
> > > > To: Turbine-User
> > > > Subject: How to approach 3 roles with separate screens?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been through the archives to see how to best approach
> > > > my requirement.
> > > > I find I am still missing something.
> > > >
> > > > I currently have a single role with one permission and use a
> > > > pull tool and
> > > > just one subclass of VelocitySecureScreen for all the screens
> > > > used by that
> > > > role. I need to add 2 more roles (all need security) each
> > > > with a single
> > > > permission each with unique screens (there are no screens
> > > > which are shared
> > > > by the roles).
> > > >
> > > > I found the mail in the archive
> > > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=turbine-user&m=101043436816718&w=2
> > > > This suggests using subdirectories for weak and secure
> > > > screens. I assume I
> > > > can use the same approach and have 3 template sub-directries,
> > > > one for each
> > > > role. But I am not sure how to tie this in with the screens,
> > > > do I have 3
> > > > subclasses from VelocitySecureScreen in subdirectories that
> > > match the
> > > > pattern on the template subdirectories? Is this the best
> > > > approach? Will it
> > > > carry over to Turbine 3?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
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