Thanks for the comments Diederik. I also read your other posts regarding version 2.2b1, and I'm starting to have doubts as to whether I should be using Flux, or even Torque at all.
Here is my predicament: I am developing a new application from scratch. It is not a particularly complicated, but it has an extremely short deadline, so I can't afford the luxury of becoming intimate with Turbine's innards just to get the simplest of things to work. I have pretty much decided that I will have to implement my own security instead of using flux. It just looks too inflexible and cumbersome at the moment, and the discussions about turbine/fulcrum security, and even version 3.0 features is something I don't have time to investigate. I certainly don't want to be using beta versions, but if I stick with 2.1 it sounds like I will have to rewrite (and even re-design) a lot of code in the (near?) future. Question: Does Flux even allow you to store passwords in digest format or do they have to be plain text? The big question is whether to use Torque. Should I use turbine's torque or the standalone? Is it even possible to use the standalone version with turbine 2.1 if I'm not using turbine security? I am also considering using enhydra for object-relational mapping and security. Does anyone know enough about both turbine and enhydra to offer any comparisons? I will definitely be using velocity for certain parts of the system, and I initially concentrated on turbine so as to avoid mixing technologies, but I think maybe now a mixture might be the way to go. There are still a few useful classes in turbine which I will be able to make good use of, and I have already seen some minor shortcomings which I will have to extend and hopefully contribute back to the project. Any thoughts apprectiated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diederik de Groot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Martin Jericho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: RE: Newbie questions > Hi Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Jericho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: vrijdag 19 april 2002 5:12 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Newbie questions > > > > > > I've installed tdk2.1 and had a good look at the sample > > application. Now I > > want to create my own. > > > > Q1: Is there any documentation on how to create a project from scratch? > > Not really, most people just copy newapp and start changing that application > to what they want preciesly. At least if you want the integration with > flux/fulcrum to remain working (The security system) > > > Q2: If no such documentation exists, is my assumption correct > > that the best > > way to do it is doing the following: > > 1. Create a new directory for the new project <projectdir> > > 2. Copy <tdk>/share/sample/build to <projectdir>/build > > 3. Create other files as required for new project > > 4. Modify <tdk>/build.properties to point to the new project > > 5. Execute ant in the <tdk> directory > > 6. Execute ant init in <tdk>/webapps/WEB-INF/build > > I'm sure there would be a lot of other changes to properties files and > > things along the way, but is this the broad plan? > > > > See Q1 > > > Q3: In my application, I need to add a few fields to the turbine-user > > table. Can I combine all of the turbine security tables, id_table and all > > of my tables into the one schema file or is there a good reason > > to keep them > > separate? > > If you want to extend User you can find a howto on the website, you will see > that it is not so easy in 2.1. You should not combine the two xml files > because differnt sources are created out ot the two. In 2.1 not source code > is generated after the turbine-schema.xml, this ia already build-in. In 2.2 > extending user has become a little easier. See my comments on this news-list > about extending user in 2.2b1. > > > > > Q4: I've seen in another post to this mailing list that someone > > mentioned a > > sample bookstore application. Where is this? > > Love to see one, have never heard about it though. > > > > > I've found the navigation of the turbine website and documentation pretty > > hard to use, probably because the documentation is contributed by many > > people and never really consolidated. There's a good chance that the > > answers to these questions are there somewhere, but I haven't been able to > > find them! > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
