I switched from JBuilder to IntelliJ IDEA some time ago and have never
looked back.  JBuilder was for some reason running like a dog on my system
and I was not at all happy with Borland's upgrade policy - i.e. 80% of base
cost for each upgrade.

IntelliJ runs much better and I find it to be much more productive than
JBuilder.  Many of the things that required opentools to get working in JB
are just there in IDEA (conversely the opentools API for IDEA is only now
being added).

I tend to use logging to debug rather than the debugger, but I did an
experiment a couple of weeks ago where I connected IDEA to an already
executing catalina instance using remote debugging and it seemed to work.  I
guess I could configure IDEA to execute bootstrap as the user that posted
the JB response suggested, but connecting to the already executing catalina
instance seems like a better way to go.

The jakarta velocity site has a set of live templates that assist with
coding velocity pages.  Ant and cvs integration are built into IDEA.

If you like living on the edge you can use one of the early access builds of
IDEA (http://www.intellij.com/eap/) to gain access to the current
development builds of the next release of IDEA.  This includes numerous
enhancements that I find very useful.  The next build (630) will require JDK
1.4 to execute - the main benefit being quicker debugging (the next release
will still support JDK 1.3, but they are focusing on 1.4 for now).

A license for IDEA includes free upgrades for the following 8 months (my
guess is that this is targeting a 6 month release cycle), after this expires
you have access to purchasing new packages at about 50% of the new user
price.

Cheers,

Scott
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Scott Eade
Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd.


> From: Paul Leddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:31:23 -0700
> To: Turbine Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: For Dummies Guide: IDEs
> 
> Curious what IDEs people are using with Turbine/Catalina, their experiments,
> data, nonbiased interpretations:
> - Netbeans
> - JBuilder
> - JDeveloper
> - Hardcore non-IDE
> - Etc.
> - Ant (and integration with above)
> 
> Basically, I want very good debugging support, as I have had in the past with
> a
> website built with JBuilder/Tomcat/custom pseudo-EJB infrastructure.
> 
> Btw, I searched the archives and only see some simple references to
> Turbine/JBuilder/Tomcat integration -- not Catalina, avoidance -- and some
> rather rude remarks by some very smart people. >snicker<
> 
> 
> 
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