I definitly agree that having a working extend user is crucial for 2.2.  The
other one I would toss out (although the scope might be too much) is to
integrate the new Security schemes that have been tossed out.  

I think doing those two things would give people a reason to upgrade to 2.2,
versus staying with 2.1.  Right now, while the decoupled stuff is cool, it
adds more complexity as well.  And doesn't seem to be a compelling reason to
upgrade.  Fixing the extend user abilty and pluggable security do seem
compelling.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Eade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:25 AM
To: turbine-user
Subject: Re: When will TDK 2.2 be released?


> From: Martin Poeschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> there is no release date planned :-(
> but you should definitly start with 2.2 and report any problems!!
> 
> 2.2 works fine for my apps, but we need more testing before a final
release
> 
> martin

Martin,

Surely there must be some kind of features based target for a 2.2 release,
otherwise there will only ever be 2.2 beta releases until the end of time.

I think we need to come up with a list of requirements that need to be met
in order to declare a turbine/tdk 2.2 final release.  I would imagine this
list might include:

1. A release of torque 3.0 final (we need to start the same discussion on
the torque-dev list with respect to torque).
2. A release of maven 1.0 final (I would imagine the maven guys have some
fairly specific criteria in mind for their 1.0 release).

I would like to add my personal bugbear to the list:

3. A working, documented solution to the requirement to extend the
turbine_user table.

Surely there is room for a process here?  Why can't the committers and users
of turbine nominate the requirements for a 2.2 final release (features,
fixes, issues, etc.)  These can be voted upon individually and the accepted
ones added into the todo page on the turbine-2 site.  This would provide
something for the contributors to work towards and a better answer to the
"when will turbine 2.2 be released?" question than "nothing is planned".

I am happy to try and coordinate some of this, but if anything is going to
be done then the committers and users of turbine need to step forward with
their lists of critical requirements for the 2.2 release.

What do you believe are the things that need to be done before a turbine/tdk
2.2 final release can be realized?

Cheers,

Scott
-- 
Scott Eade
Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd.
http://www.backstagetech.com.au



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