[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I definitly agree that having a working extend user is crucial for 2.2.  The
> other one I would toss out (although the scope might be too much) is to
> integrate the new Security schemes that have been tossed out.  
> 
> I think doing those two things would give people a reason to upgrade to 2.2,
> versus staying with 2.1.  Right now, while the decoupled stuff is cool, it
> adds more complexity as well.  And doesn't seem to be a compelling reason to
> upgrade.  Fixing the extend user abilty and pluggable security do seem
> compelling.
> 
> Eric
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Eade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:25 AM
> To: turbine-user
> Subject: Re: When will TDK 2.2 be released?
> 
> 
> 
>>From: Martin Poeschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>there is no release date planned :-(
>>but you should definitly start with 2.2 and report any problems!!
>>
>>2.2 works fine for my apps, but we need more testing before a final
> 
> release
> 
>>martin
> 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> Surely there must be some kind of features based target for a 2.2 release,
> otherwise there will only ever be 2.2 beta releases until the end of time.

there will be no major changes before the final release of turbine 2.2
basically there should only be bug-fixes and doc enhancements.

> 
> I think we need to come up with a list of requirements that need to be met
> in order to declare a turbine/tdk 2.2 final release.  I would imagine this
> list might include:
> 
> 1. A release of torque 3.0 final (we need to start the same discussion on
> the torque-dev list with respect to torque).

torque 3.0 and turbine 2.2 will be release together.

> 2. A release of maven 1.0 final (I would imagine the maven guys have some
> fairly specific criteria in mind for their 1.0 release).

i don't think we have to wait for a 1.0 release ... the final verisions will be built 
with the 
latest maven release
> 
> I would like to add my personal bugbear to the list:
> 
> 3. A working, documented solution to the requirement to extend the
> turbine_user table.

+1

i never had to extend the turbine user table .. so i need some feedback here ...

> 
> Surely there is room for a process here?  Why can't the committers and users
> of turbine nominate the requirements for a 2.2 final release (features,
> fixes, issues, etc.)  These can be voted upon individually and the accepted
> ones added into the todo page on the turbine-2 site.  This would provide
> something for the contributors to work towards and a better answer to the
> "when will turbine 2.2 be released?" question than "nothing is planned".

scarab is working fine for torque now .. we should also use it for turbine .. so all 
request should 
go to the bugtracking system ...

> What do you believe are the things that need to be done before a turbine/tdk
> 2.2 final release can be realized?

the current docs are not as usefull as they should be
we need more people testing the current builds

everyone currently using turbine 2.1 should start moving to 2.2 NOW! and report all 
problems, bugs, 
... and send patches!! ;-)

martin


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