thank you for the answers, the sql query Eric doesn't seem to be liked by mysql as it tells me there is an error.
What I really want to do is to get all the id's of all the users that have no roles and hence, I would not really have to use the security service as Henning kindly explained.
I just want to use a torque-like query with joins on a Criteria Objects and so forth, but I just do not know how to do it :-(
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