Eric,

Thanks for the advice.

Would you mind sharing your environment with me? What I mean is what IDE are
you using to develop with? What code generation tool(s) are you using to
create hibernate classes, deployment descriptors, DTO's, DAO's, etc...

Thanks again.
 - Matt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Pugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Turbine Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: Hibernate or Torque... What's the Future?


> I for one am hell for leather headed towards using Hibernate.  I used
torque
> before, but for various reasons decided to go for Hibernate.  You aren't
> wasting your time building your project in torque however IF, and big IF,
> you use a good seperation between objects and data objects.  If you have
> business logic spewed all over your various Torque objects, then you will
> hate life when it comes time to port.  But, if you have data objects
> (torque) and then either wrappers or business objects that pull from data
> objects, then porting is not too bad.
>
> What I learned was the ORM tools may come and go.  Torque, then Hibernate,
> but I bet is in time it'll be something else.  Hence the reason to
seperate
> it out.
>
> Basically, if you can write your app with NO persistence, and then later
add
> your persistence in, then you wrote it correctly, and plugging in
> Torque/Hibernate/JDO will be okay...
>
> I use hibernate extensively and successfully with Turbine.  There is a
> howto:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2.3/howto/hibernate-howto.html
> available.  Getting started with Hibernate via Avalon also get's you ready
> for T2.4 and lots of Avalonized components!
>
> Also,
>
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/multiproject/fulcrum-security/inde
> x.html there is a hibernate based security system.  And in the unit tests
is
> an example of using it in t2.3 with the turbine user/groups/roles etc...
>
> Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Pomar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Hibernate or Torque... What's the Future?
> >
> >
> > A proposal is included in Turbine version 2.3 to integrate Hibernate.
> >
> > It is my impression Hibernate is widely used and has fantastic
> > documentation. There are a number of code generation
> > utilities for it, and
> > it appears to be well tested and high performance.
> >
> > I would like to make sure that I'm not wasting my time
> > builing my project on
> > Torque if it will be replaced by Hibernate in the near future.
> >
> > Does anyone know the status of the Hibernate integration?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >  - Matt
> >
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