Re: Fulcrum Build Results -- REVISED missing dependencies

[Mike Manner]

Hi Eric,

I was looking for a security framework around and finally I found the 
security component, part of the fulcrum project.

It seems to be a good choice considering that it is open source, well 
designed (though it is an alpha version) and offers persistence through 
hibernate !

I have read the online explanations and the "simple" implementation 
model proposed with hibernate seems to be a good compromise between 
functionality and complexity.

However I'm not sure I have exactly understood the way to use the api.

So as described in the doc we have four entities : users, groups, roles 
and permissions.

I wondered if I can do this :

1. define fine grained permissions and hard code them in my applications 
to define what a user can do or see.

2. configure as many roles as I want : i.e. create roles and set 
permissions to the roles ( as long as the application relies only on 
permissions, roles can be created and deleted whitout any problem...)

3. set roles to groups

4. add users to groups

So groups are central in this design.

What I want to do is a web interface for managing users, groups and 
roles for web-applications (and I intend to insert the permissions 
directly in the database so they cannot be modified through the web 
interface).

Am I wrong with that ?

Mike



Eric Pugh wrote:

It was pointed out that JTA is a copyrighted jar from SUN, so I have removed
it from jakarta.apache.org/turbine/repo.  I am updating the build
instructions instead to tell users to go to Hibernate.org and download it
from there, since I can't seem to find a jarred up version on the Sun site
to point to.
Eric

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:57 PM
To: 'Turbine Users List'
Subject: RE: Fulcrum Build Results -- REVISED missing dependencies
I really appreciate your digging through these things.  Having a fresh
environment means you see all the little things that my
environment already
has, and I missed.  Out of curisotiy, I tried to download a
JTA jar file,
but all I could fine where individual class files from sun's
site.  I am
tempted to keep the dependency information as:
     <groupId>hibernate</groupId>
     <artifactId>jta</artifactId>
     <version>hib2.1</version>
     <url>http://hibernate.org/</url>
However, you can get it from jakarta.apache.org/turbine/repo,
and I am going
to turn on that repo by default, instead of off by default.
Unless I can
figure out some other location to download some sort of
jta.jar file instead
of individual classes from sun's site...
Eric

   

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Manner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 7:02 PM
To: Turbine Users List
Subject: Re: Fulcrum Build Results -- REVISED missing dependencies


Hi,

Thanks for this work, this actually allow the build of
fulcrum project !
As you mentionned jta, as javamail, is an api available from
sun site :
http://java.sun.com/products/jta/
and cglib is an independant project
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cglib, the current release
     

is 2.0-RC2
   

and both are used by hibernate in is latest release 2.1.1

this should explain the names of the jars...

Mike





Gerry Duprey wrote:

     

Howdy,

Okay - I am now able to build fulcrum (yeah!)

In terms of manual intervention, here is my revised list of
       

things I
     

had to do because Maven didn't know how to handle:

* javamail-1.3.jar
   I know you have to manually download this.  Can the version be
updated
   to 1.3.1 since that is what the javasoft site is
       

offering?  Also, not
     

   sure if the notes belong here or not, but Javasoft/Sun
       

distributes
     

this
   named as "mail.jar" and it needs to be renamed to
       

javamail-1.3.1.jar
     

* jdbc-2.0.jar
   I think this is a "known" need for maven -- just noting for
   completeness
* mckoidb-1.0.2.jar
   Maven could not download this (and didn't have any
       

URL to offer
   

either)
   I downloaded it into my repository in as
       

mckoi/jars/mckoidb-1.0.2.jar
     

* hibernate-cglib-2.1.1.jar
   As Mike pointed out, this is really the cglib2.jar from
       

hibernate
     

   and I can imagine either documenting the need to do
       

this manually
     

   or adding it to the downloadables Maven can do.  I
       

think it would
     

   be really helpful, at a minimum, to change the name as
       

cglib2.jar
     

   and put it under cglib/jars in the repositoru as it is
       

a seperate
     

   project from hibernate.

* jta-hib2.1.jar
   Again, Mike pointed out this is really just the
       

lib/jta.jar file from
     

   the hibernate install.  JTA seems to have some other
       

issues (maybe
     

like
   javamail), but perhaps a closer to actual name and some
       

docs on the
     

   manual intervention required would help.

* ehcache-0.7.jar
   The refresh Maven stuff did successfully download this,
       

though it
     

   was stored in the hibernate/jars directory of the Maven
       

repository
     

   and since it's not actually a project directly under Hibernate
   (though related), I might suggest it really belongs
       

under ehcache.
     

But, I'm happy to report, I was able to build it.  Now I
       

can really
   

start having some fun :-)

Gerry

       



     

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