--- "Sasan, Hement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Now this very method (doBuild) returns an object of
> type
> "org.apache.ecs.ConcreteElement", that means the
> developer needs to create
> an object of this type.
> 
> When I write my own html stuff using the IO streams,
> in my screens, the page
> works through Turbine, but my navigations get lost.
> I get only the part, I
> write in my screens using Streams.
> 
> Is ConcreteElement of any significance, if the
> developer is not using ECS?
> It's just one example. At many places in Turbine,
> ECS would be there, I
> guess.
> 
> Though ECS is a very useful module, but I would like
> to first, use Turbine,
> with out ECS.
> 
> Any comment on "Turbine with out ECS"? What all
> points need to take care of?

Hement, you could use ecs as the glue to put some html
fragments togther.  You can add strings, div elements
to an ECS document with filtering turned off (I think
this is now the default).  The string and div elements
can hold the html that you have coded.  This way, you
can compose your html offline without much use of ecs
but still get the html reuse benefit that turbine
provides with, for example, navigations.

If your interested in using Turbine, it's certainly
worthwhile to gain some knowledge of ECS.  

- george



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