I'm currently using XMLC with Turbine.  I'm using it only for presentation,
and using Turbine's Action model as is.

FYI - XMLC has been under a modified MPL license for a long time, but the
Enhydra team has just made it easier to get at for people who don't want
their entire server.

In any case, once I get out of crunch mode (going live with a new site in a
few weeks) I'm going to clean up the way I've done the XMLC/Turbine
integration to make it like the WM/FM implementation.  Is anyone else
interested in this?

-Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Turbine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:26 PM
Subject: More Integration: XMLC


> I'm drafting a small essay about why I don't like XMLC (vs. WebMacro) for
> Jason Hunter in a few minutes (I will CC the list, but I expect any
> discussion to not go on the list because it is way offtopic). I'm going
over
> the Enhydra website and I just noticed that XMLC has been factored out of
> the Enhydra framework into it's own standalone package. This is a good
thing
> because now we can go about integrating it into Turbine if anyone feels
the
> strong need to have it.
>
> <http://xmlc.enhydra.org/>
>
> Also, this is an excellent overview of MVC design:
>
>
<http://xmlc.enhydra.org/community/workingGroups/rocks_docs/rocks_presentati
> on_framework.pdf>
>
> It goes a bit to much into the theoretical than I like, but I guess that
is
> cause I never liked school that much. Regardless, it draws some pretty
> pictures for people to get their head wrapped around.
>
> One thing that I like about Turbine is that the Action modules essentially
> are controllers and well defined in the framework as such. Most other
> frameworks that I have seen do not have that abstraction and I really
> appreciate that about Turbine. Thought has been put into not only dealing
> with serving pages, but also dealing with accepting input (ie: <form
> method=post>). Other web app frameworks tend to forget about that or
> consider it secondary. :-(
>
> -jon
>
>
>
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