Didier Dubois wrote:

> And YES! Torque is a very NICE tool! I love it!

I checked it out today, and I'd say it's very promising.
DB Design tool -> DBMS -> XML -> OM + ANY DBMS SQL Schema model is defnetely 
the way to go for Turbine.

> General:
> -------
> - is there a way to tel the user that the XZY library he use is not up
> to date? (a kind of versioning system,...)

I remember that someone proposed it on the list already, but it didn't 
came out of conception stage.

> - Torque is template based, but inside the code there is a lot of
> println! This is not really useful! It would be nice to be able to
> templatize most of the generated code!!!!!

AFAIK it doesn't use tempates at all for OM code generation. It's all
println stuff that is a real PAIN to change and maintain.
For example, I have a problem with Torque, as it clobbers my column names.
I use Java naming conventions in my DB (tables=classes, columns=attributes) instead
of UPPERCASE_UNDERSCORE_SEPARATED. As a result I get the names squished to all
lowercase. I thought I could fix it implementing something like getNameLower() and
getNameCaps() that would have configurable behaviour. After looking at the source
I decided I'd better wait for templated version...
But when it is redone using templates (be it WebMacro, or whatever else) this sytem
will gain incredible power.

> Anyhow, Torque seems to be  the most powerfull tool I ever seen after
> grep!!! I like it!

When it's really templated I'll say the same ;-)

Rafal


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