> Hi,
>
> [I apolgize for my english]
>
> Today, I finally succeeded with Turbine installation !!
>
Great to hear that you finally got it working! As the Turbine Development Kit
becomes more fully implemented, I hope experiences like yours become the
exception rather than the rule.
> I'd like to ask You some questions about Turbine and Tomcat, but first I'd
> like to tell You a piece of a funny story:
> "my previous Turbine installation's attempts"
>
<snip>
>
> Ok, I'd like to give You my $0.02 for the people who is tryng to make
> Turbine works...
>
> a) The actual documentation (IMHO) seems to have got some "hidden"
> statements - like:
> "Use Tomcat - the new config files and the examples are better suited for
> Tomcat (or for the servlet specs V2.2)
> than for Apache JServ..."
>
> b) Tomcat:
>
> >From the turbine's docs directory (install.html page):
>
> #4. Add the following xml to $TOMCAT_HOME/conf/web.xml. It
> will be a child of the <web-app> element.
>
> <servlet>
> <servlet-name>Turbine</servlet-name>
> <servlet-class>org.apache.turbine.Turbine</servlet-class>
> <init-param>
> <param-name>properties</param-name>
> <param-value>/WEB-INF/conf/TurbineResources.properties</param-value>
> </init-param>
> </servlet>
>
> For my environment (Tomcat 3.2 b2), this DOES NOT work !!!
>
> This piece of config should be put into the
>
> $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/web.xml
>
> config file !!! (at least, for my environment !!)
>
Now fixed.
> Further, into the
> http://java.apache.org/turbine/install.html
>
> page, the same piece of config has a small error: the <servlet-class>
> element contains
> "Turbine" instead of "org.apache.turbine.Turbine".
>
Now fixed.
>
> Another thing:
>
> "The following examples assume your servlet zone is configured at
> http://your.host.com/servlets. If this is not the case, please substitute
> your zone name for /servlets (Tomcat uses /servlet for its default servlet
> zone)."
>
> A new novice user (like me) can think that Tomcat can be used alone (ok,
> that's right ;^).
> But... How can I specify the "servlet zone" concept using the new V2.2 specs
> ??
>
> Simple... use Tomcat with the Apache integration... so read the "Tomcat
> workers.properties" document ;^)
> I'd like to see a note into Turbine documentation for the statement above...
> Example: setting worker properties, download the ApacheModuleJServ.dll
> (win32) module ... etc etc.
>
> I think Turbine is a very hot framework, and I'm still waiting for a
> "milestone" or a beta version (I hate this "state of flux" !!!).
>
> Actually, I think a novice user has got TOO MUCH problems to get a simple
> and productive Turbine environment...
> I see the integration with a lot of cool tecnologies (Torque, Velocity, and
> so on...), but it seems to be a
> "core-developer-only game"...
>
I completely agree with you. That's why I will be focusing my effort on
developing the TDK, which (hopefully) will make it much easier to get started
with Turbine.
> Anyway, thank you guys for the great work !!
>
Thanks for your comments! The more fresh eyes we get on the end-user
documentation, the more useful it becomes. (I must confess that I haven't looked
at the installation docs in _quite_ a while. ;-))
> Luca Fossato.
>
--
Christopher Elkins
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