And http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp-reaction.html By the way I succeed to make Turbine work. Not so difficult but the Install notes are missing some stuffs when using Tomcat. (This is Not a critic!) I understand your point of view concerning JSP but ... You should also mention that using a technology like Turbine should make possible the use of JSP in the beginning (I come it from Sun like anybody and I built a MVC in JSP like anybody before coming to you) and migrate to a more robust engine using Velocity (I suppose it will replace Webmacro in the future and can be see as webmacro++ ?). Anyway JSP is here to stay for a while and when you will have to sell a product, when it has the J2EE stamp, it makes people more comfortable... I will look forward the code now to analyse, understand, hack, ... it. I am already sure I will discover things that I did not think of it when building my MVC. Please release a version soon : that's why I did not come to see Turbine before. It will make the world discover how Turbine can be usefull in ALL Java/Web based project. Vincent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Turbine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:28 AM Subject: jsp sucks balls > on 9/5/2000 11:21 AM, "Christopher Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Who can take the time to argument this position ? > >> O Reilly ? > > > > http://www.webmacro.org/OtherTech.html > > http://www.webmacro.org/Servlet-Design.html > > http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/design.html > > one more... > > http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html > > -jon > > -- > http://scarab.tigris.org/ | http://noodle.tigris.org/ > http://java.apache.org/ | http://java.apache.org/turbine/ > http://www.working-dogs.com/ | http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ > http://www.collab.net/ | http://www.sourcexchange.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > To subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Search: <http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine%40list.working-dogs.com/> > Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ To subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Search: <http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine%40list.working-dogs.com/> Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
