Hi,
As someone new to Turbine, Velocity/Webmacro & Freemarker, I also read the
article.
I am curious about the author's view that Freemarker is more efficient that
either JSP or Webmacro/Velocity because it doesn't use reflection.
Have I got this correct?
What is the general view re. Freemarker vs. Velocity/Webmacro?
Ray Power
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> Subject: Article Review...
>
>
> Here is my review of an article on Javaworld about WM...
>
> <http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2001/jw-0119-freemarker.html>
>
> I like the fact that he is bashing JSP (the more the better), however he
> kicks himself in the ass when bringing up the argument against JSP as the
> fact that it needs to do reflection for things which is something that is
> (or should be) cached anyway.
>
> The other argument that falls down is complaining about older versions of
> JSP instead of simply complaining about the latest version.
>
> Another problem with the article is the fact that the author is obviously
> completely biased toward Freemarker. When doing articles like this, it is
> best to approach them in an unbiased fashion in order to show
> people on both
> sides of the fence a better solution instead of simply just pissing people
> who like JSP off.
>
> Lastly, for someone pushing MVC so hard, it seems a bit backwards
> to then go
> and put an SQL statement into a template...
>
> Example:
> <H1>Hello, ${sql("select username from users where userid = 333")}!
>
> Maybe that is just showing the power of Freemarker in the ability to do
> something like that, but bad examples lead to bad code.
>
> I also don't like the complete lack of mention of Velocity, which
> is better
> than WebMacro but still keeps the same model, but I can accept that as
> Velocity is newer than WM and he probably hasn't bothered to check out all
> of the other technologies out there...
>
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/>
>
> I also don't like the fact that he pushes MVC so hard and then totally
> ignores the Pull model in all of his examples...
>
> <http://java.apache.org/turbine/pullmodel.html>
>
> thanks,
>
> -jon
>
>
>
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