I also like to start with a Tutorial whan I'm using a new product. I'm ok
for a small but complete application used in this tutorial (something like a
secure employee management).
Maybe someone have an interesting DB demo that we used in this tutorial ?
>General
>---------
>- (Prerequisites for using your lessons - assumed familiarity with Java,
>databases, xml, other...)
>- Turbine/lesson requirements (OS, database, jdk, etc.)
Also maybe a small introduction on the archicture (servlet, ...).
Just to refresh important point before starting with Turbine.
>Torque
>-------
>I would be most interested in a "lesson" on Torque. After looking at the
>build/project folder, I was able to see how to have the TDK create my
>simple
>database/table. I cannot find, however, how to create foreign keys (either
>literally in the database, or logically using the peer classes). Also, how
>do I do more complex sql queries?
Is it really necessary for a tutorial ? I think it is a specific subject
that needs more detail.
>
>I would use the following sections:
>
>- XML structure(s) for creating tables
>- peer Methods for generating equivalent SQL queries
>- Using Torque to add tables/peers to a pre-existing database (if this is
>possible).
>
>Turbine
>--------
>Sections I would find useful:
>
>-getting started using the TDK (this is basically done on the web site)
> Appendix - what did the TDK build for you (src files,
>databases/tables,
>templates...)
>- Selecting a template engine (Velocity, JSP, WebMacro...)
Obviously Velocity withour any comment ;-)
>- Adding login functionality
>- Creating a new screen from scratch
> creating the screen
> creating the class
> creating peers (see torque above)
>- Creating new actions
>
>In general - at least personally - I learn more when the documents are in
>the form of a tutorial, so that I am creating a demo app as I learn the
>lessons.
>Many of these items I have found peppered in the Maillist or web site. The
>hurdle is determining if posted solutions are viable using the TDK, or if I
>need to download the CVS (In which case, add a section on "How to create a
>development install of turbine/torque/tdk from cvs).
>
>Just my 1-cents (perhaps overpriced at that)
No price for that, I will reuse it on my customer sites ;-)
>Steve B.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christophe Lombart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:18 AM
>Subject: Re: How does it work ?
>
>
> > Sean,
> >
> > Obviously, I cannot live without the TDK. TDK is my second wife.
> >
> > So, I'm waiting for new programmers who are starting their job with
>Turbine.
> > Depending on their questions, I will write my doc and I will submit it
>to
> > this mailing list.
> >
> > I think a white paper like 'Turbine in 25 lessons' & 10' for each lesson
> > should be an excellent way to promote Turbine. After making step by step
>all
> > lessons, the developer can have a better estimation of this OS project.
> > Certainly, the idea is not to be the 'Turbine expert' but it just to
>avoid
>a
> > lot of unsuccessfull love affair.
> >
> > Christophe
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Sean Legassick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Turbine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Turbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: How does it work ?
> > >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:42:06 +0000
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 02:07:04PM +0100, Christophe Lombart wrote:
> > > > I'm interesting to help you by mail.
> > > >
> > > > What not to explain you step by step how to use Turbine in 10
>lessons
>(I
> > > > mean its basic features).
> > > >
> > > > During this intensive discussion , what you can do is it to build a
> > >document
> > > > that maybe should be post to this mailing list and use later by
>others
> > >who
> > > > have the same basic issues - Something like "Turbine for the java
> > >beginners"
> > > > that will be a nice white paper to promote Turbine even for junior
>java
> > > > developers.
> > > >
> > > > Are you interesting ? if yes, let start for the first lesson :
> > > > Introduction to Turbine
> > > >
> > > > Yes, really, that's the good time to write the first Turbine book -
>no
>?
> > > > Christophe
> > >
> > >That's a great idea Christophe - a good potential resource. Make sure
> > >you are using the TDK though...
> > >
> > >Sean
> > >
> > >--
> > >Sean Legassick
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Czlowiekiem jestem i nic co ludzkie nie jest mi obce
> > >
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