On 24/03/2011 04:21, Michael Pedersen wrote:
Before I talk about the future, I'd like to look at the past a little bit.

TurboGears has a good history. It's one of the older web frameworks in the Python world, and it managed to have a decent following for a long time. You can see that by looking at the history of the message counts for this ML. They're over at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears-trunk/about

The strongest period of time on the list was from Nov 2008 to Mar 2009. Ironically, Mar 2009 was when I first started looking at TurboGears. I'm not sure what happened, but traffic on the ML took a major dive that month. From there, a slow but steady decline is visible. In fact, most of 2010 shows traffic to be at an all time low, with May not even having a single post.

My ultimate goal is to fix that. I want TG to become what it once was in popularity. I want to make TG into something people look at and say "Wow". As it stands right now, we're a long way from that. We can fix that, though. To that end, here's my current plan:

First: Complete the migration from the current server onto beta.turbogears.org <http://beta.turbogears.org>. Move the live tickets into SF.net's Allure platform. Give us a new face, and start using our own product. Second: Release 2.0.4. We have some bug fixes in place already, we just have to complete any remaining tickets and do the release. Third: Release 2.1.1. Same deal, we just have to complete the mandatory minimum tickets for it.

I hope to have *all* of that done by the end of April.

Once we've accomplished that, it's time to begin working towards 2.2.0. This is where the work will become difficult. I have a number of goals for 2.2.0.

    * Bring testing coverage to 100%
    * Improve documentation. Overall goal is to make docs into a book
      in a few major parts: Tutorial (take a project from idea to
      maintenance), alternatives and extensions (to help get projects
      moving quickly), and finally a reference section at the end.
    * Close out all bugs that can be closed without introducing
      backward incompatibility *or* deprecation warnings.
    * New features will be limited to things that don't introduce
      backward incompatibility *or* deprecation warnings

I want to release 2.2.0 by the end of this year. Between now and then, I plan to release incremental improvements to 2.1, so that we can enjoy the benefits of the progress. I'm hoping that these releases will help to bring TG2 back onto the radar for python web developers.

So, there you have it. That's my goals and plans. What do you all think?
First of all thank you for all the work you are putting into this!

I have been sitting on the fence for a long time, always wanted to get going with a TG project but never made it - yet, it will happen at some point.

My feeling with the above is that the few people currently involved are still spreading themselves pretty thin, by trying to maintain many branches.

Are there many people out there waiting for a 2.0.4 release? If not I would skip this and concentrate all the time on 2.1.1 and small improvements to 2.1.1 and moving forward to 2.2.

The most important point is getting the doc into sync with the "main" branch, if this is 2.1.1 then the doc and at least the one or two tutorials should work out of the box with the main branch.

Just my 0.02EUR from the fence:-)
Werner

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