Hi Steve,

On 11/3/05, Steve Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am working on a project and have run into several (known) bugs.  Some
> of these I can work around.  Some not so easily. (e.g. 'tg-admin sql
> create' failing to create foreign keys sometimes becasue the target
> table has not been created yet.)
>
> I was wondering about moving from 0.8a4 to svn.  Bugs are no doubt
> getting fixed there, as well as being added and sometimes moving to the
> development branch can actually be a plus from the standpoint of stability.

TurboGears and, in fact, all of the core projects, have automated unit
tests suites. This helps to ensure that what's in svn remains fairly
functional. The real risk to running the svn version right now is that
if you start using the new 0.9 features, you may find yourself needing
to recode a little bit as the APIs change. That's only natural,
though, for development code.

> Any thoughts on the pros and cons of making such a move.

I'm a fan of making frequent releases, so hopefully there won't be
much need for going along on the bleeding edge of svn. Generally
speaking, there's not too much downside to using the TurboGears svn
version. You just need to watch out for those areas that are in active
development.

> Also, I know it's really an unknown, but would 3 months be a reasonable
> expectation for a 0.9 release with SQLObject 0.8, etc?

1.0 will, in all likelihood, be out before the end of the year. The
major features for 0.9 are starting to come together, then we'll do
more bug fixing and documentation for the release. 1.0 is a small hop
from 0.9.

I don't know Ian's timetable for the next SQLObject release. I believe
he's planning a 0.7.1 that will include the foreign key fix. SQLObject
0.8 is farther off, because it's a more significant release and there
are a number of nice API changes happening.

> BTW, I had my concerns at first, but now that I am getting somewhat up
> to speed on TG, I'm really optimistic about its future.

Glad to hear it! I, too, am really optimistic about its future. There
are things going on behind the scenes that are going to be really good
for the project.

> One thing that might have helped me get further faster would have been a
> note on the "Getting Started With TurboGears" link that said: "For your
> own good, READ this and don't just skim it!  It's IMPORTANT!"

We're planning to have a new page that walks someone through learning
TurboGears. The current doc index page isn't really suited for that.
Hopefully, that will help someone get running quicker and easier.

Kevin

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