On 11/12/05, Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You don't have to waste a whole lot of time on this thread. I
> appreciate your replies and find the issue interesting, but realize the
> tg community would rather see you hammering out widgets and books :)

As you mention at the end of your email, these little details can make
the difference between a framework that works but annoys you every
time you use it, and one that you love using.

> >From a modeling perspective, I believe it's valid (but pedantic) to say
> "a login form is a type of form". In fact, I think tg could pretty
> safely provide a LoginForm (extends TableForm) widget. A default
> template would be vanilla w/ lots-o css hooks, be  bound to tg_user and
> tg_role tables, etc. The template could handle ordering, etc. etc..
> (heck, @expose could even pick up 'required_role' and 'login_url' key
> words).

Hmm... This is an interesting point. Though, as you said, forms are
stateless. you could just as easily do:

login_form = TableForm(TextField(tg_user), PasswordField(tg_password))

or some such.

> Actually, I was a little dismissive of this thread when I sat down to
> write. In truth, I'm glad it's not being trivialized. Style and design
> are ___realllllly___ important. TG's base products (SQLObject,
> MochiKet, et al.) are perfect examples of thoughful design. So, thanks
> for thinking out loud.

I agree that this type of conversation is important to have. The
difficulty is that there's generally no provably right answer. If
someone shows me a use case or two that is clearly better one way or
the other, that will help. For now, this is the one that "feels" the
most straightforward to me.

Kevin

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