On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 15:23 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote:
> On 5/3/06, Evan Rosson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd like to create a tool to help with SQLAlchemy schema migration a
> > bit. I've been interested in this for a while now (ie. I'm not just
> > blindly copying a suggestion from this mailing list) - I'm working on a
> > TG project which I know will have a good number of database changes
> > later on (lots of small changes, mostly), and I need a way to manage
> > that. SQLAlchemy fits many other requirements for my project, but lacks
> > a tool to manage schema changes; I've been looking into how I'd make a
> > good schema migration tool - seems like a good candidate for my SoC
> > project.
> 
> Dude... You'd make me a very happy camper if you're approved and go
> after this one.
> 
> > I've made good progress on my proposal, though it's not done just yet.
> > I think I've got a pretty good plan so far, but more info on how this
> > has been done before would be helpful. So, my question: has anyone out
> > there have a schema migration tool they've used and really liked?
> >
> > I'm familiar with these:
> > - SQLObject's versioning:
> > http://sqlobject.org/sqlobject-admin.html#versioning-upgrading
> > - Rails' migration:
> > http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Migration.html
> > - Writing migration scripts by hand (the "default" way to do things,
> > with no tool)
> > Anyone out there used something good for this that I haven't looked
> > into?
> 
> This is not a problem that I've studied in great detail. However, I
> understand that doing it automatically is dangerous and fraught with
> peril.
> 
> So, I think the best bet is to not do it automatically. Here's what I'd see:
> 
> 1) a tool to know whether or not a conversion should be applied
> 2) a way to express DDL in as database-independent a fashion as possible
> 3) a way to express the database-specific portions where #2 can't quite do it
> 4) a way to apply the changes in a given environment

There's a tool written in Python called xml2ddl for working with XML
representations of a schema.  It allows you to generate the SQL to
convert one schema to another.

http://xml2ddl.berlios.de/

-- 
Matt Good <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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