Cliff Wells wrote: > On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 22:55 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: > > > Ilias emailed me after running up against trouble on the Django list. > > I have looked at that wikipedia page. > > > > Ilias had some valid points on his wiki regarding Django. I don't > > mind productive criticism. I also made it clear that I had no > > intention of buying services, so that commercial aspect to prior > > complaints about him is a non-starter. > > > I'm sure Patrick K. O'Brien thought the same thing: > http://schevo.org/lists/archives/schevo-devel/2006-May/000749.html > > But reading Ilias' page, he claims that despite Patrick's clear refusal > of his commercial services, Orbtech, LLC retained him anyway: > http://audit.lazaridis.com/schevo > > This seems rather odd, given that Orbtech's home page claims that it's > lead by Patrick K. O'Brien: > http://orbtech.com/ > > Further, he creates the impression that Patrick's refusal of his > services somehow reflected badly on the project lead: > http://audit.lazaridis.com/schevo/wiki/SchevoTeamRating > > So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would > perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or > Ilias is a blatant liar.
While I would rather stay out of this discussion as much as possible, I feel I must address these comments since I have access to certain facts that others do not. I do own the company known as Orbtech, so that would definitely make me part of management. And Orbtech did indeed retain the services of Mr. Lazaridis for a period of time. I had hoped that good things might result from hiring one of my harshest critics. My relationship with Ilias had its ups and downs, but there came a time when I decided to no longer retain his services. I don't hold any animosity towards Ilias and wish him well. I believe he feels the same way towards me. I'd rather not comment too much on his methods or reputation as a spammer other than to say that while I do not agree with many of his methods, I think some of his reputation is undeserved and unfortunate. Hopefully you won't believe everything you read about a person and will attempt to make your own judgements, or just stick to the technical details of the discussion. I hope that was helpful. Ilias is free to disagree with any of my statements (not that he needs my permission since this is a public forum). -- Patrick K. O'Brien Orbtech http://www.orbtech.com Schevo http://www.schevo.org Louie http://www.pylouie.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
