First off, Mark.. Thanks for being objective while reading my feedback. It was never my intention to throw stones, but help others and do my part. It shows a lot of charachter-including-integrity to respond the way you did. All too often ego's push people away from great projects.

On 11/8/06, Mark Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 11/7/06, Lord Galrion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have downloaded the TG book from Safari and have to say that there
> is a lot of good stuff in it and it has helped a lot.

Thanks.
No, Thank you!

> However, I am
> pretty much new to TG and web design and come from a PHP background. I
> know python relatively well but find TG confusing.

You can definitely skip the Fast Track section and go directly to the
SQLObject, Kid, and CherryPy reference sections.  You won't miss
anything that you can't come back and pick up later.

Yeah, I will for sure. What I have read of SQLObject so far has been awesome. I briefly read the kid stuff, which I will surely re-read, but kid confuses the hell out of me without the if-elif-else clauses. Maybe I missed it, but if you can elaborate on that it would be great. Also, I don't think I saw any nested for loops with kid examples. I will read it tonight and get you some feedback.


 

> The book parts that
> I really didn't like so much was the fact that the advanced TG
> tutorial comes way before the introduction to kid and SQLObject.

> The
> bookmark example was fairly good, but there were a lot a times were it
> became vague. It left me with a feeling that I did not understand how
> things work.

I'm sorry about that.  If you can point out some specific examples,
I'll be sure to update the website for the book to add explanations
anything that's unclear.

Great! I'll read it again tonight and email you some feedback. I am not so anal
to correct typo's and grammar.. but comprehension is a priority. I'll gladly help where I can.
 

> If wanted, I can write a more specific feedback to the chapters I have
> read and don't understand, if that helps. Being that I am not an
> expert, and I feel that I am a step or two away from being a Newb, I
> figure I would be the prime target for this book.

I would definitely love to hear your feedback, and I'll do what I can
do improve your experience with the book and with TurboGears. ;)

Sure, I am game. Thanks.
 

> The only book on the market for TG is going to focuse on SQLObject and
> kid! Yet, SQLAlchemy and Genshi are going to be default in the next
> version of TG, and I am guessing by the time the book comes out. Don't
> you feel that is unfair? Or kinda silly?

SQLObject and Kid will be the defaults in the 1.0 release, and Genshi
and SQLAlchemy weren't even on the radar when we origonally wrote
those chapters ;)

I plan to create online addendum for Genshi and SQLAlchemy as they are
added to official TurboGears releases.

> Also, I do have a request and would be willing to help. TG docs seem
> to be very unorganized on the website.

I've got a couple of Documentation Sprints in the works, and you're
suggestions for possible documentation improvements would be a great
help.

Again, happy to oblige.

--
Mark Ramm-Christensen
email: mark at compoundthinking dot com
blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog






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-mike


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