On 11/14/06, Michael Steinfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   File
> "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/TurboGears-1.0b1-py2.4.egg/turbogears/__init__.py",
> "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Myghty-1.1-py2.4.egg/myghty/importer.py",
> ImportError: No module named tgfastdata.plugin
ok I see 3 things here are you using other then kid templates?
did you install the fastdata extension?
by any change this code was created with a TG 0.8* release?

>
> what I will probably do to remedy this, is install python2.4 manually, I am
> guessing that something is up with the python default install  with FC6.
> Also note that I tried using 'Yum' to install which again worked fine, but
> would not let me run tg-admin.
>
> I am not saying this to complain at all, I will remedy it. I am just letting
> you guys know that there are issues with FC6 and TG.
it may be, can you check if the FC6 packages use setuptools?

one thing that you should know is that setuptools enable packages
doesn't recognize non-setuptools packages, but they can be installed
as plain distutils modules, so many packaging systems install
setuptools modules what won't work with setuptools ... ironic isn't
it?

>
> Mike
> On 11/14/06, Kevin Dangoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Weholt wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I've been a fan of Turbogears since the first announcement, but
> > > recently I've become more and more sceptical about using it. It's
> > > ok to
> > > build a framework on third-party modules, but in turbogears this is
> > > beginning to look crazy. Just look at the list of packages listed at
> > > http://www.turbogears.org/download/index.html . I don't
> know how
> > > many of
> > > these you absolutely need to get turbogears running, but all my
> > > attempts at downloading the latest release have failed lately because
> > > of some missing third-party module or something that won't compile.
> >
> > This is part of the reason why I created the new tgsetup script. It
> > removes some more details.
> >
> > In fact, the plan is for there to be *more* dependencies, not
> > fewer... because, we're breaking more parts of TurboGears itself into
> > reusable parts (like the widgets).
> >
> > > This was no problem in the start of the project. It was a brilliant
> > > showcase of good use of setuptools. If there's a way around this, to
> > > download just the core modules you need to get started it should be
> > > better documented on the homepage.
> >
> > The download page needs to change to just say this:
> >
> > 1. Install Python
> > 2. Download tgsetup.py
> > 3. Run tgsetup.py
> >
> > That's it.
> >
> > > And as more and more users switch to
> > > python 2.5 turbogears lags behind because alot of the third-party
> > > modules aren't 2.5-compatible.
> >
> > Actually, Pyrex has been the main holdup. As Jorge mentioned, at this
> > point we should be able to make things work with 2.5, but someone
> > needs to try it out.
> >
> > > I've also tried to keep track of the progress of Turbogears using the
> > > trac.turbogears.org-site, but the roadmap shows little or no progress
> > > lately. Are there being done any serious work on the core issues?
> >
> > A few people have gone in and helped clean things up a lot. Some
> > issues will get attention and others won't... it's all a question of
> > what people's priorities are.
> >
> > If someone steps forward on the turbogears-trunk list and says "I
> > want to fix this bug, any pointers?" I think they'd get some useful
> > help and get the bug fixed.
> >
> > > Sorry, if this seems like just complaining, and you can say "Why don't
> > > you dive into the code, fix the bugs, contribute patches etc." all you
> > > want. I've been sitting on the fence waiting for turbogears to reach
> > > 1.0, be easy to download and use and then suggest it as an alternative
> > > to .NET-based solutions at my workplace. My first encounter with
> > > turbogears was love at first sight so I really want turbogears to be a
> > > success.
> >
> > Things are getting cleaned up, docs are getting cleaned up and put
> > together and tgsetup eliminates a bunch of installation hassle. There
> > are probably a couple more bugs that absolutely must get fixed, but
> > otherwise I think the product is pretty good.
> >
> > > I wish my timeschedule allowed me more time to work on projects like
> > > this, then maybe I could really contribute and help solve some of the
> > > issues I've mentioned here. Many of you guys probably have the same
> > > problem. But anyway, keep up the good work. I *do* appreciate the work
> > > you do, even if this message might make you think I don't.
> >
> > It's always good to hear both the good and bad of people's
> > impressions of our software. Thanks for sharing!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -mike
>
>
>
>  >
>

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