Hi Iain,

On Dec 1, 2006, at 2:14 AM, iain duncan wrote:

>
> As far as I can tell, it is currently impossible to install from the
> turbogears site without hacking of setup scripts beyond my ken.
>
> I would say this is a serious issue, as it seems there is no backup
> install plan beyond the main download page. tg-setup is not  
> working, and

This message would be a lot more useful if you stated the problem  
that you're having with tgsetup (a traceback, perhaps?)

> the download instructions mention the possibility of downloading files
> individually, with a link back to the same page that has ... tg- 
> setup. I
> can't find these other files.I can get an older egg by changing the  
> beta
> number, but have no idea how to do anything with only the egg or  
> how to
> tell tg-setup to use that egg.

The files are still there if you view source. I just changed the page  
so that they're visible again.

> This is, IMHO, a bad problem for Gears adoption. Nobody can tell when
> they will have to deploy in a hurry, and certainly it will turn people
> right off from the framework if they are stuck with no viable way of
> downloading other past versions of other mirrors. Should there perhaps
> not be a sourceforge page with a wack of options including every old
> version available for easy download? If there exists a list of mirrors
> to previous releases, it's not mentioned on the main site in the
> download section.

I'd like to see tgsetup sprout an option to choose TG versions.

> I realize this is "beta" software and you get the risks with the
> rewards, but IMHO the situation right now is crazy. It should never be
> impossible to revert to an older known working version, and for  
> software
> intended for "rapid development" I think contingency plans are
> necessary.
>
> Sorry for the rant. I really like the way gears works. But I'm having
> very bad deployment experiences right now which are making me  
> wonder if
> this is viable for a business option. I'm somewhat floored with how
> problematic it has been getting gears code that was working fine on  
> one
> machine to work on another. :/

That's a problem I've never had. I develop on a Mac and deploy on  
Linux and haven't had any issues with deployment being different from  
development.

I hope we can get your issues fixed up quickly. You can still resort  
to easy_install TurboGears==1.0b1 if you need to.

Kevin

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