On 1/8/07, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/7/07, Glenn Davy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> hi jorge
> ive only got ubuntu here atm (except for one win32 box, booted
> occassionally) - i'll see what I can discover, but can I just
> clarify ....you are wanting, on ubuntu dapper/edgy/fawn
yes I just hate codenames :)
to discover
> dependencies need to successfully install:
>  * tg 1.0 or trunk?

1.0 if you want trunk your probably a developer or found a really bad bug.

>  * using setuptools, or  packages provided in distribution feed ?
mainly setuptools since that is our recommended installation method.
As for the packages they are supposed to be 100% binary so there
*shouldn't* be a need to have gcc to run the packages.

my problem with distro specific packages in this matter is that at
least on gentoo, they are not always integrated with setuptools (they
are just run as plain distutils modules) which messes with setuptools
package discovery tool that could eventually install 2 versions of the
same package damaging both setuptools and the package manager.


Also, which TG app is the target?
none in particular want to use CogBin as a test?

Or is just launching a quickstart
project and tg-admin enough?
that could be too, since if installed with setuptools will bring in all deps.

 To get TG to quickstart and tg-admin I
just followed the directions
 http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/InstallUbuntu
and instead of using the command line, I used the synaptix installer.
yes I agree but why we need to force gcc on a enduser? one of the
points egg try to solve is having an easy way to distribute binary
python packages specially for the the ones that have C code which are
the packages causing this situation.

But then I had a pretty complete python install already since I'm a
corporate developer who uses python most of the time.

I've got another laptop with a stock 6.10 install sitting behind me --
I can use that to test once I know the above.

the utimate goal wil be to reduce http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/InstallUbuntu
to something like
$ easy_install TurboGears

We already know of one offending package and that is RuleDispatch this
is because there is no cheeseshop page for it.
-j
>
> thx
> glenn
> On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:21 +0000, Jorge Vargas wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > if your running/have access to any Ubuntu machine and have a little
> > time read on.
> >
> > I have seen this issue happen a couple of times in the IRC channel
> > someone wants to run TG or a TG based program, if they go with
> > setuptools/tgsetup, I'm not sure with the .deb files.
> >
> > they are probably going to need some extra packages that most people
> > shouldn't need. the only I know of are python-dev and
> > build-essencials, now I believe this is because we are missing at
> > least one egg in the chain of packages TG needs which makes the
> > installation a lot more complicated.
> >
> > So if someone out there is any ubuntu version (6.6, 6.10, and 7.2
> > sorry if I got the numbers wrong) at least one for each that could
> > track down exactly which packages are the ones that depend on the dev
> > packages.
> >
> > The ultimate goal of this is that if anyone is going to install a full
> > TG application they can do it on a non developer machine.
> >
> > >

>


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