I've been using the new soaplib library in a couple of  projects, and
while I think SOAP sucks, I know that soaplib makes it "suck less."

With that said, I'd doubt that soaplib would help with either of your
problems, as they seem to have been the result of seriously  broken
soap libraries.  Of course the complexity, ambiguity, and handwaving
of the SOAP spec in various areas pretty much makes writing broken
implementations unavoidable.

My point is just that sometimes you have to deal with SOAP, and it
will be a good thing for Python if we have tools that make SOAP less
frustrating and painful.

--Mark Ramm

> SOAP is a total nightmare. It's the most complicated and least
> efficient way to do anything.
>
> I think I wasted about 10 hours over the past few days trying to
> figure out how to put together a SOAP client that would talk to a
> poorly implemented SOAP service (written in PHP with NuSoap). Neither
> the documentation or the WSDL file were correct and they didn't
> provide example code in any language!
>
> I eventually managed to get it to work using elementsoap, after
> failing miserably with ZSI and SOAPpy. I had to hack in dumping of the
> XML back and forth to figure out what was actually happening.
>
> This is actually the second time I've used SOAP... the first time was
> similarly screwed up -- the service I was talking to was written in C
> and didn't actually use an XML parser (nor was it a correct HTTP
> implementation). Ugh.
>
> XML-RPC, url encoded variables, JSON, and anything else REST-ish have
> always worked out pretty well for me though.

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