on that note, take a look at the Zenoss VM..they have Turbogears
installed, but there is not talk about it:  I wonder if they are going
to switch soon.

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-1.1.1-x86.vmware.zip

On 5/22/07, Chris Cioffi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > I am currently in the process of selecting a Python web framework for
> > an upcoming project
> > and from a technical standpoint, Turbogears appeals to me most when
> > compared with Django and Pylons. That said, it would seem that the
> > three frameworks would allow one to achieve satisfactory results with
> > a similar amount of effort. Technical considerations aside, I do have
> > concerns about the long term sustainability of Turbogears and it
> > certainly appears that Django is gaining quite a bit of momentum.
> >
> >  When looking at the google groups statistics for both Turbogears and
> > Django, it is clear that the Django group is growing at a much more
> > rapid pace than Turbogears, both in terms of membership and message
> > activity, Whereas the Turbogears group does not appear to be
> > attracting nearly as many new members and the activity of the list
> > appears to be slowing down. Therefore, I am feeling that Django might
> > be a better choice where long term sustainability is concerned. Does
> > anyone feel that my concerns are warranted?
>
> Hi Stacey,
>
> As others have noted, TG is being adopted and used by a wide variety
> of companies.  That's a trend that is unlikely to slow down or stop.
>
> I would suggest that the reason the Django users seem more numerous is
> due to the type of projects being created.  Django was developed as an
> uber CMS framework, and the folks adopting Django tend to be
> selling/offering content far more than a product built with Django.
> Hence, not only is there no reason to "hide" their back end
> technology, they may even get a nice PR boost from supporting an open
> source solution.
>
> TurboGears is more of a web application framework and is used to
> develop products people actually use and pay for.  Hence, there may be
> a competitive advantage in keeping the implementation platform
> "secret".
>
> Note:  I'm *not* saying people don't pay to use Django sites, only
> that it's generally the content on those sites and not the specific
> Django application that draws people.
>
> I've investigated both Django and TG and both have strengths and
> weaknesses.  For my current projects TG is the right choice.
>
> Chris
> --
> "A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only
> a fool trusts either of them." -- P. J. O'Rourke
>
> >
>

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