On Oct 23, 11:45 pm, "Florent Aide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I concur with Jonathan. TG is all about choosing the components _you_
> prefer and using them. We won't tell you not to use a component.

Florent,

See my point above in response to Jonathan. It's all very well giving
people the option of choosing components, but having to examine and
understand all sorts of different alternatives for model handling,
authentication, and so on, is a long way from "Create a database-
driven, ready-to-extend application in minutes" and "Front-to-Back Web
Development" as the Turbogears web site front page claims. There
aren't even decent examples on how to extend your model now that
SQLAlchemy is the recommendation and the old tutorials no longer
apply; you have to dig around on the SQLAlchemy site for clues.

I really wish some consideration was given to the fact that beginners
will know almost nothing about SQLAlchemy vs.  Elixir vs. SQLObject,
or Identity vs. Authkit vs. roll-your-own-with-cookies, etc. It's a
lot of auditing work to do before getting started. I suppose I was
'unlucky' in that I started using Elixir because a piece of draft
documentation said it was recommended! Had I started at a different
time, I might have struggled on with the ugly-but-well-understood
plain SQLAlchemy methods and got things working, but there you go.

--
Ben Sizer


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