> > If you're a beginner, and you feel overwhelmed by the complexities of
> > stuff I'd recomend using SQLObject, Identity, Kid, and all the other
> > defaults in the current release. Yes, we know that they won't all be
> > the defaults in the future, but the should still be supported, or at
> > least have a well defined upgrade path. And as you say, they are
> > relatively well documented, and good enough for many (perhaps most)
> > purposes.
>
> My worry, as expressed when I initially asked about the future of TG a
> couple of weeks ago, is that since almost all the useful answers I get
> on this group come from TG developers or developers of the various
> components, if I end up using the 'old' path, I will get less support
> as the TG community moves on to the newer and cooler stuff. That's
> exactly what happened between 0.8 and 0.9 - you'd ask how to do
> something, and the answer tended to be along the lines of "uhh, dunno,
> we use something completely different that's only on the trunk. Try
> upgrading?" or words to that effect.
>
> I'm not the kind of person who has a massive need to have the latest
> and greatest libraries, but in a situation such as this where I
> unfortunately have to rely on the community to get anything done, I am
> quite wary about digging a hole for myself where I end up using
> something that nobody else does.
>
> I think what I might just do is strip out Identity and go with Elixir,
> since that removes one potential point of failure and lets me keep the
> sane model interface. But that still leaves one of my previous
> questions unanswered: are there parts of Turbogears (eg. scripts,
> tools, widgets, admin interfaces, whatever) that are simply not going
> to work with Elixir? I basically want the smoothest ride possible that
> is not going to leave me behind when I'm still posting here in 6
> months, basically.
Hi Ben,
I am also a beginner with TG and so chances are we are in a similar
situation. I was also wondering about SA vs. SA + Elixir vs. SO and
Kid vs. Genshi, etc, etc, there are indeed lot of choices. After all I
sticked to the current default which is incidentally the simplest to
use: SO + Identity + Kid for the very reason that probably with this
combo I will run into the least number of esoteric scenarios like the
ones you mentioned: whether using Elixir will mess up the rest of TG.
With the default components everything just worked and I strongly
believe I don't need the sophistication of SA at all but I do need for
example Identity which would take lot of time to write from scratch.
If your application is also not very complex and want something done
fast without the shiniest and coolest libraries I would recommend
using SO + Identity.
And people seem to be very helpful on this list even with the less
cool and older libraries so no worries there, I haven't really heard
the answer you mention ("Oh, dunno, how about trying the trunk?") many
times.
Cheers,
Daniel
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