>
> > If your application is also not very complex and want something done
> > fast without the shiniest and coolest libraries I would recommend
> > using SO + Identity.

>
> Yeah, maybe it's better now. That was mainly a problem back in the
> 0.8/0.9 days where I couldn't get help due to everybody with any
> knowledge on the list working with the trunk rather than the actual
> released version. Still, even now lots of people are saying they use
> SA, so that's a concern.

If it has a calming effect on you, you might be interested in learning that I 
don't use SA. Because when I'm in control over my schema, SO is all I need. 
It features the relations I'm interested in, I'm perfectly ok with (actually 
prefer) numeric IDs, using the SQLBuilder is easy enough to create complex 
queries without resorting to SQL for nearly all use-cases (with a bit of 
added goodies you'd otherwise miss when creating these yourself) and so 
forth.

I have to admit though that I didn't have a deeper look at SA, neither 0.3 nor 
the newer one. But when I read here that many people used it, I in fact tried 
and evaluated it. And to me, it's rather complicated because I first define 
the tables I want to use, and _then_ I map my objects on top of that. 
Relations weren't exactly declarative.

And the fact that something like Elixir is needed to make SA look nicer (if 
circumstances allow it because you can control the schema, as mentioned 
above) leads me to the answer: I use SO.

Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to disrespect any of the SA and Elixir 
developers - but Elixir seems to me as a cure for a problem SA has because... 
it's not SO :) 

Diez

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