Em Wednesday 24 October 2007 10:34:05 Diez B. Roggisch escreveu: > If it has a calming effect on you, you might be interested in learning that > I don't use SA. Because when I'm in control over my schema, SO is all I > need. It features the relations I'm interested in, I'm perfectly ok with > (actually prefer) numeric IDs, using the SQLBuilder is easy enough to > create complex queries without resorting to SQL for nearly all use-cases > (with a bit of added goodies you'd otherwise miss when creating these > yourself) and so forth.
I'm using SO for my biggest projects as well. But I don't aim database independence and I'm using the ORM layer to make my life easier (but sometimes I wonder if I should be writing plain SQL since performance would be better to me). > I have to admit though that I didn't have a deeper look at SA, neither 0.3 > nor the newer one. But when I read here that many people used it, I in fact > tried and evaluated it. And to me, it's rather complicated because I first > define the tables I want to use, and _then_ I map my objects on top of > that. Relations weren't exactly declarative. Yep. This is why Elixir looks like a better solution. To me, when I evaluated it, it brought more harm than good so I took it out of my testing code. Sometime in the future I plan on testing it again because a lot of things have been solved since that time and Elixir has improved a lot. > And the fact that something like Elixir is needed to make SA look nicer (if > circumstances allow it because you can control the schema, as mentioned > above) leads me to the answer: I use SO. I use SO. And stored procedures. And functions. And views. And triggers. And rules. And all I can get from my database server to improve things and reduce complexity of my Python code. As I explained, database independency is not a goal for me as it isn't programming language agnosticity. > Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to disrespect any of the SA and > Elixir developers - but Elixir seems to me as a cure for a problem SA has > because... it's not SO :) :-) I think a little different here -- i.e., Elixir implements a different type of mapping on top of a more generic / abstract SA, and this different type of mapping makes it as specific as SO. -- Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
