If anything can be said about Zope it's that it was ahead of it's time ;-) Pretty sure attribute based templates in ZPT were around long before the current crop of templating languages.
I'm coming to TG from Zope 2 - not Plone. Specifically, Zope 2 product development. What you'll hear about Zope is all true. Documentation is very poor, there is a steep learning curve, etc. Plone is really it's own beast. People build businesses around Plone. With a python background, I'm not sure how much "Zope learning" you would have to do - it's an app server that serves python products. Google around for Zope and python frameworks - I found an article recently that mentioned the Zope security model as the standard for authentication in python frameworks. Huh. Probably more applicable would be Zope 3, which is a rewrite of Zope and very different than Zope 2 - geared more toward Software Development (big S big D) We have a very successful Zope 2 cms - but I'm interested in TG where we need to work with a RDBMS and not just the ZODB Zope is great for building cms's, but it's a little behind the times (IMHO) when it comes to web 2.oh app development.. I'm still exploring Zope 3 for a rewrite of our cms - Blend. Oh - yeah, and zope marketing sucks bad. And the zope site sucks...bad. Chris On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:05 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > > iain duncan schrieb: >> A bit OT I know, but this list seems to give me very good answers all >> the time. I'm building my ( very small ) companies business around >> custom web applications, currently in TG and looking forward to >> adding >> Pylons to the mix with TG2. >> >> However, we also get calls for lower budget more off-the-shelf cms >> situations, and right now I have been kicking those to a friend >> who does >> Drupal installs. >> >> I would like to know experienced python developers opinions on >> whether >> it would likely be worth learning Zope/Plone for this kind of work >> instead, and whether there is likely to be any kind of productive >> cross >> in knowledge or tools between Zope/Plone and TG/Pylons work. > > ZOPE is certainly a very powerful application server. At my company, a > colleague works with ZMS instead of plone: > > http://www.zms-publishing.com/ > > I've supported him sometimes, as he is a programming illiterate so > to say. > > But it is amazing what he can accomplish without any help from a > "real" > programmer. > > However, there will be no knowledge cross whatsoever. ZOPE is it's own > world that just happens to be implemented in Python. And the CMS on > top > of it only add to that. > > Diez > > > Chris Rivard | Clearwired | office: 505-217-3505 | mobile: 505-301-4010 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TurboGears" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
