Here's the reference: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg35749.html

Tim Black wrote:
> If I recall correctly, in one of his talks in the last 2 years Mark
> Ramm gave an interesting comparison between a dependency graph of
> TurboGears vs. the dependency graph of Django--Django's was incredibly
> more complex (try creating the Django graph with gluttony!)  That
> doesn't necessarily mean TurboGears' dependencies do not pose
> problems, but at least it provides some context and perspective for
> evaluating TurboGears' graph.
>
> Tim Black
>
> Victor wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just wrote a tool for drawing dependency relationship digram of
>> Python project.  Here is the project home page:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/python-gluttony/
>>
>> It's interesting and useful to understand the dependency relationship
>> behind a Python project.  I think the dependency of TurboGears might
>> be a potential problem.  That's also one of reasons I wrote this
>> tool.  Here is the dependency relationship digram of TurboGears2:
>>
>> http://static.ez2learn.com/gluttony/tg2_dot.png
>>
>> I hope this could be helpful.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Victor Lin.
>>
>>   

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