On Jan 14, 2011, at 2:29 PM, bvdb wrote:

> - Rant about TurboGears2 -

To summarize: you are frustrated because you chose a deployment strategy at a 
time where no such thing was needed. 
And because that failed, you condemn the whole project as being essentially 
worthless as a base-technology to write webapps.

This is nonsense. If you'd follow the quickstart tutorial (which is the normal 
way to do things), you would have been happily running TG2 as paster local 
server, with automatic reload on file-changes and so forth. And gain the 
experience to judge TG2 for it's actual merits (or lack thereof, of course, if 
you find so).

Instead, you focus on one, agreeably crappy, piece of documentation. 

Yes, mod_wsgideploy is crap. It always was, and itself and the piece of 
documentation in TG2 written by it's author have been identified as such years 
ago. It was planned to remove them from the docs. It's sad that it didn't 
happen, but that's the way it is.

Me personally worked with 

 http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithPylons

which is straightforward and easy enough. But it does not lift you from the 
burden of having an actual working virtualenv, with "python setup.py develop" 
being issued. Something you can veryfy - again - with paster on the commandline.

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with the docs. But it was part your 
preconceptions on what to try first. And your conclusions are over-reaching and 
offending. As simple as that.

Diez

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