Am 30.01.2011 14:58 schrieb bvdb:
... However, it will
not work if people in the community lean back, rely on the few people
who offer their spare time, only use the software but contribute nothing
and only complain from time to time, ...
Ok, I am one of those, and started this thread from a superficial
position of someone switching over to Python/TG from another platfrom
and following just the "Build app in minutes" claim.
I did not want to say that *everybody* needs to contribute. My point was
that if *nobody* contributes, then the project dies. And I think it
would be fair if at least those who have successfully used TG for
productive or even commercial applicatons should contribute, even if
"only" by improving the docs (e.g. how to deploy with mod_wsgi), or by
answering questions on the mailing list.
Regarding the 2.1 issues, the bottleneck might not be to add some
explanations here and polish the layout there. The problem that
occured with deployment looks more like an unclear responsibility, so
maybe a _decision_ has to be made what's important and what not, in
order to simplify not only the docs but parts of the framework. And
for a decision there has to be someone in charge.
Right, the main problem was that nobody was in charge until Michael
volunteered to be that person.
Talking about popularity, there is no "community" tab on the TG
homepage, and there seem to be no forums or blogs about it, or none
the TG team cares about.
There's only "About.. Documentation Install Development News" - so the
message is somehow "Take it and don't bother us with your questions".
>
We are a real community project and have no company backing.
Maybe the TG team does not want that?
Or where's an invitation like "Tell us your success story with
TurboGears here (form-link)" or "Become an official sponsor, contact
[email protected] for details"?
No, it was not the problem that the TurboGears team did not want this or
that or had too few or too much ambitions. The real problem was that the
TurboGears team had nearly ceased to exist.
Anyway, I think the first steps have been made to reestablish a team,
and things should move forward again. Please bear with us, we are trying
to simplify the infrastructure, migrate the project from our old server
to SourceForge and create a new homepage. And you're right, the
"community" tab is the first thing that should be improved.
-- Christoph
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