Thanks for your comprehensive answer. Your proposal sounds good to me. If 
the proposed feature would be a one-line modification, I would use it 
immediately. 

Thank you so much for great software and dedication for developing it.

-Kimmo

lauantai 9. syyskuuta 2023 klo 0.53.40 UTC+3 DRC kirjoitti:

> Oof.  Yeah, the handling of SSH usernames is a bit messed up.  The SSH 
> username has traditionally been treated as a meta-parameter of sorts.  
> It is taken from the Via parameter if it is specified in that parameter 
> (or its GUI equivalent in the "TurboVNC Viewer Options" dialog), or it 
> is taken from the Server parameter if it is specified in that parameter 
> (or its GUI equivalent in the "New TurboVNC Connection" dialog), or it 
> defaults to the local username if it is unspecified. The SSH username 
> meta-parameter is stored in a string inside the Params instance, and the 
> string is set when the Via or Server parameter is set or when the "SSH 
> user" field is set and "OK" is clicked in the Options dialog.  In prior 
> versions of TurboVNC, this had the following ramifications, which were 
> arguably confusing:
>
> - If "Use VNC server as gateway" was checked in the Options dialog, the 
> "SSH user" field was ignored if the SSH username was specified in the 
> Server parameter (and/or the "VNC server" field in the Connection dialog.)
>
> - The value of the "SSH user" field was not saved and restored between 
> invocations of the Options dialog unless the gateway host was also 
> specified.  This is because, if the gateway host is unspecified, the SSH 
> username becomes associated with the Server parameter, and the Server 
> parameter is ephemeral (i.e. it has no default value and is not saved 
> and restored, although it can be specified in a .turbovnc file or 
> default.turbovnc.)
>
> IMHO, this behavior is broken, because it violates the implicit contract 
> whereby everything in the Options dialog is saved (and will be restored 
> not only on the next invocation of the dialog but also on the next 
> invocation of the TurboVNC Viewer) when "OK" is clicked.  The 
> introduction of per-host options in TurboVNC 3.1 further broke the 
> already broken behavior.  It isn't clear in which cases resetting other 
> parameters with Options dialog equivalents (Via in particular) should 
> also reset the SSH username, and apparently the SSH username is being 
> reset in some cases in which it shouldn't be.
>
> The only clean solution I can think of is to stop treating the SSH 
> username as a meta-parameter and leave it attached to the parameter in 
> which it is specified (Via or Server.)  That would have the following 
> ramifications:
>
> - When using the Tunnel parameter (or checking "Use VNC server as 
> gateway"), the SSH username would need to be specified in the Server 
> parameter or the "VNC server" field.  The text in the Connection dialog 
> and the documentation of the Server parameter would be modified to 
> clearly indicate this.
>
> - The Options dialog would have a single "Gateway" field that acts just 
> like the "VNC server" field in the Connection dialog, i.e. the SSH 
> username would be specified by prefixing user@ to the hostname.  
> Checking "Use VNC server as gateway" would disable that field.  New text 
> in the Options dialog would direct users as to the correct usage of the 
> "Gateway" field.
>
> That would be a slight feature regression against 3.0.x, but again, the 
> behavior of 3.0.x and prior was somewhat confusing.
>
> The proposal above would fix both of the issues you report.
>
> The feature you request would be dead simple to implement, just a 
> one-line modification that makes the LocalUsernameLC parameter affect 
> the SSH username as well as the User parameter.
>
> DRC
>
> On 9/5/23 2:34 AM, Kimmo wrote:
> > Setting default SSH username with
> >
> > via={user}@{server}
> >
> > doesn't seem to work with default settings (~/.vnc/default.turbovnc). 
> > The same syntax however works with .turbovnc-files. I don't know if 
> > this is by design or not. If I could ask for an option I would like to 
> > be able to convert Windows username to lowercase and use that as SSH 
> > username. Obviously there are more important features to implement 
> > before this.
> >
> > Another minor SSH related issue: You have to put some dummy host into 
> > SSH settings before you check "Use VNC server as gateway" in the 
> > viewer options. If host is left empty and "Use VNC server as gateway" 
> > is checked the SSH username doesn't get used.
> >
> > Great software with up-to-date features! Especially now with the 
> > keyboard mapping!
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Kimmo
>

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