As an example of how much simpler things could be if we got our maven builds
set up so maven automated everything  see:
http://incubator.apache.org/cxf/building.html#Building-Performingarelease

But, I still think a RM should understand whats going on so mvn shouldn't be
a substitute for having read all the ASF and Incubator doc about releases.

  ...ant

On 7/25/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I'd like the release guide if the steps we follow are a bit different
than what is normally done or if there are some variations to how we
perform some steps.   But if we were just about going to rephrase all
of what has already been said somewhere else I'd prefer just about
having a pointer from Tuscany.  Maybe a good begining to all of this
could be to have our release guide and link to the information that is
available.  Then as we get to review and apply that we could flesh our
guide.

Having said that, I'd like us to have a 'release review checklist'
that enlists the bunch of things that need to be reviewed in a RC
including things like testing out the binary distro before the source
distro. etc.

- Venkat

On 7/24/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> snip..
>
> >
> > There's already lots of doc about doing releases in the ASF - on the
ASF
> > main dev pages and within the Incubator site etc.
>
>
> The problem with there being lots of docs is that there are, ahem, lots
of
> docs. Where is the definitive set of guides that provide the detail
required
> to release Tuscany for someone, like me, who hasn't done it before?
Possibly
> an impossible question to answer as you don't know what I don't know and
I
> don't know what you do know so our view of what is an acceptable level
of
> detail probably differs. Here are the top level guides I found.
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/#rreleases
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
>
> I can't say whether the above links are satisfactory as I haven't been
> through the process but I agree that we should propose updates if they
are
> found to be wanting. For example, a discussion of RAT.
>
> For consistency I would expect to see all the keystrokes recorded that
are
> required to produce and distribute a release. The fewer the better so,
yes,
> more automation would be good.  I expect automation does not completely
> remove the responsibility to check the release against release criteria,
> e,g, legal, but gives a good indication of what is required to make the
> release happen. Again anything we can do to automate these checks is
good.
>
> I don't expect that release is a process that should involve a lot of
> imagination on our part other than in providing more automation of the
> required steps. To put it another way is there anything specific we have
to
> do for Tuscany that would not be included in the general guide? I note
that
> many projects do have release guides. Why is this the case?
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html
> http://cayenne.apache.org/release-guide.html
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/release-guide.html
> http://activemq.apache.org/release-guide.html
>
> I do note that the Incubator release guide states "Different options or
> opinions are encouraged.". If options are offered (and I can't say that
> there are without reading the detail) then we need a place to document
which
> are chosen for Tuscany releases.
>
> Simon
>

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Reply via email to