+1. I entirely agree with your views on this. - Venkat
On Jan 21, 2008 9:55 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 4:14 PM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think we need to keep in mind the bigger overall picture when > thinking > > > about these details, if we've been getting too much into the > > > implementation > > > detail would help to step back a bit - the following are the things i > > > think > > > we're trying to do here: > > > > > > 1) applications to contain only the code and other artifacts required > > for > > > the application itself not Tuscany internals - simple sca contribution > > > jars > > > > > > 2) some sort of runtime(s) which can run those application > contribution > > > jars, so that could be things like standalone (command prompt), from > > > testcases, in a webapp, or some customization of something like > > > Tomcat/Geronimo/WebSphere/JBoss etc > > > > > > I think we also need: > > > > > > 3) Those runtimes need to be distributed but the Tuscany download page > > > should have a small number of downloads so its easy for users to work > > out > > > which to choose > > > > > > 4) To make it easy for newbies to run things so at least one > > distribution > > > should have prebuilt samples so they can be run out-of-the box without > > > having to be compiled/built and for things to work without having to > do > > > much/any messing about with installation/configuration/customizing. > > > > > > 5) Ideally the easy to use distribution is not so large. > > > > > > Do all those sound reasonable? Does anyone want to add/remove/modify > > > anything? > > > > > > ...ant > > > > > > > Ant > > > > I would add the following, which may be and extension of 4) but here > goes. > > > > Support the automatic running of all sample applications as though they > > were > > being run by the user. To allows us to test all forms of the sample > > applications in all applicable runtimes on a regular basis without > leaving > > it to the point at which we make a release. > > > > Simon > > > > > Big +1 to that. Was just thinking about this while testing all the samples > for 1.1, would make release reviews much easier if we had an automated > sample test suite and would also help catch the changes breaking samples > during dev rather than the not being discovered until we try to release. > > ...ant >
