On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ant elder wrote:
>
> > We've done a lot of work since last October. We now have a diverse
> > community
> > of contributors and have demonstrated the ability to attract new
> > committers
> > to create an even more diverse community, we have shown we can do
> > releases
> > based on Apache guidelines, and we have shown we conduct our discussions
> > in
> > public within full view of the community and can resolve disagreements
> > on
> > the lists. I think we're ready, so please vote on the proposal below to
> > graduate Tuscany to a TLP.
> >
> > +1 from me.
> >
> >   ...ant
> >
> > X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
> > purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
> > the creation and maintenance of open-source software that
> > simplifies the development and deployment of service oriented
> > applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime
> > based on the standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA group,
> > for distribution at no charge to the public.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Tuscany Project",
> > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby is
> > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> > related to Apache Tuscany;
> > and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Tuscany" be
> > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> > of the Apache Tuscany Project, and to have primary responsibility
> > for management of the projects within the scope of
> > responsibility of the Apache Tuscany Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > Apache Tuscany Project:
> >
> >   - Adriano Crestani <adrianocrestani at apache dot org>
> >   - ant elder <antelder at apache dot org>
> >   - Brady Johnson <bjohnson at apache dot org>
> >   - Frank Budinsky <frankb at apache dot org>
> >   - Ignacio Silva-Lepe <isilval at apache dot org>
> >   - Jean-Sebastien Delfino <jsdelfino at apache dot org>
> >   - kelvin goodson <kelvingoodson at apache dot org>
> >   - Luciano Resende <lresende at apache dot org>
> >   - Mark Combellack <mcombellack at apache dot org>
> >   - Matthieu Riou <mriou at apache dot org>
> >   - Mike Edwards <edwardsmj at apache dot org>
> >   - Paul Fremantle <pzf at apache dot org>
> >   - Pete Robbins <robbinspg at apache dot org>
> >   - Raymond Feng <rfeng at apache dot org>
> >   - Simon Laws <slaws at apache dot org>
> >   - Simon Nash <nash at apache dot org>
> >   - Venkata Krishnan <svkrish at apache dot org>
> >
> >  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Ant Elder
> > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany, to
> > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby
> > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> > Incubator Tuscany podling; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > Incubator Tuscany podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> > Project are hereafter discharged.
> >
> >  My sincere apologies.  This version of the charter is not correct,
> and I failed to notice the problem when casting my +1 vote.
>
> The first paragraph says:
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
>  purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
>  the creation and maintenance of open-source software that
>  simplifies the development and deployment of service oriented
>  applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime
>  based on the standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA group,
>  for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> In our most recent vote (see [1]) on the wording of this paragraph,
> we agreed the following text:
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
>  purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
>  the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
>  distribution at no charge to the public, that simplifies the
>  development, deployment and management of distributed applications
>  built as compositions of service components.  These components
>  may be implemented with a range of technologies and connected
>  using a variety of communication protocols.  This software will
>  implement relevant open standards including, but not limited to,
>  the SCA standard defined by the OASIS OpenCSA member section,
>  and related technologies.
>
> Because of this problem, I wish to rescind my earlier +1 vote.
> Am I allowed to do this under Apache voting rules?  I'd also
> like to request that this vote be restarted with the second
> version of this paragraph substituted for the first version.
>
>  Simon
>
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200803.mbox/[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
>

We've just had 19 votes in favour of this wording so it could be argued that
that now makes this more the "correct" one than that old one :-)

Seriously though, its a good catch but we've had a solid turn out in this
vote so it would be a shame to abandon now and restart. I think it will be
ok to take this as the "we're ready" project vote and then use the updated
words you've just posted when we take it to the IPMC vote. There's often
tinkering with the proposal wording of other poddlings during graduation
votes without a complete restart so i think its fine for us to do that here
too.

   ...ant

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