Hey Ant,

Thanks for offering to perform this task!

Have you managed to make any progress with this?

Cheers,

Dave.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:15 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, now that it looks like everyone wants this to go ahead I'll go do this,
> not sure if I'll have time to finish it today and I'm out tomorrow but I'll
> try to make sure the artifacts are built and available by the end of the
> weekend.
>
>   ...ant
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dave Sowerby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Could anyone give me any time scales for the 1.2.1 release?
>>
>> The release I'm preparing is due to be released within the next week
>> and is unfortunately blocked awaiting this update.
>>
>> I'm available to assist in any way necessary.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I can help with validating the samples and demos for 1.2.1.
>> >
>> > On 5/27/08, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Dave Sowerby wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Simon,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> With regards to the 1.2.1 release you are correct that we have a
>> >> >> patched version of tuscany-sca-all which would work, but this however
>> >> >> leaves us in an awkward configuration position.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We're currently preparing a software release based around Tuscany
>> >> >> which is completely open to customers of our use of Tuscany, such
>> that
>> >> >> we document fully how to construct services independent of our
>> >> >> software.  As such, we do not ship any Tuscany artifacts and instead
>> >> >> encourage our customers to utilise the published maven repository.
>> >> >> Whilst requiring a patch version of one of the jars is possible; I
>> >> >> don't feel that this is a good representation of Tuscany - either
>> >> >> documenting a variant version or expecting a non-standard version of
>> >> >> 1.2-incubating.  These potential solutions are more likely to cause
>> >> >> issues for customers that would undermine the image of Tuscany that
>> we
>> >> >> try to project.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is anyone adamantly opposed to this release?  Do you feel Tuscany
>> >> >> 1.2.1 is still an option?  I'd hope that given the potential to
>> damage
>> >> >> our customer's perception of Tuscany would be enough to justify this
>> >> >> minor release.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Thanks for the clarifaction and explanation.  It seems to me that
>> >> > because we distribute Tuscany via Maven repos, which can't be patched,
>> >> > this kind of situation will arise whenever a serious bug is found.
>> >> > We can use patches to isolate a problem and confirm the fix, but we
>> >> > generally won't be able to use them as an alternative to a release.
>> >> >
>> >> > In a situation like this, unless a new release is imminent, the best
>> >> > solution seems to be to produce a quick "bug fix" release without
>> >> > incurring the overhead of a full release and testing cycle.  Ant has
>> >> > suggested that we could do this by applying a small set of carefully
>> >> > controlled changes to the previous 1.2 release tag.  I think we need
>> >> > to be very strict about what changes go in, to avoid another
>> experience
>> >> > like 1.0.1.  Specifically, I would suggest only including the fix
>> >> > for TUSCANY-2304.
>> >> >
>> >> > What do others think of this?
>> >> >
>> >> >  Simon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dave.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Nishant Joshi wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hi All,
>> >> >>>> I have raised TUSCANY-2304 which was actually blocking me to go
>> >> further
>> >> >>>> with
>> >> >>>> SCA client. So It was given high priority to resolved and
>> fortunately
>> >> >>>> Ant
>> >> >>>> has resolved it very fast, i appreciate his effortt, thanks alot
>> Ant
>> >> for
>> >> >>>> this :).
>> >> >>>> Another one was TUSCANY-2251 that was handled by Simon Nash and he
>> has
>> >> >>>> also
>> >> >>>> done good progress on it (found from this list ). This problem came
>> in
>> >> >>>> eclipse generated web service client (please refer it for more
>> detail)
>> >> >>>> so
>> >> >>>> this is also in high priority to get in next release. So i request
>> to
>> >> >>>> add
>> >> >>>> TUSCANY-2304 in 1.2.1 and if possible TUSCANY-2251 also.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> One more thing, its very critical for us to get the next release
>> 1.2.1
>> >> >>>> ASAP
>> >> >>>> (with 2304 and if possbile 2251 also :) ).
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> So I hope you can understand the effect of the TUSCANY-2304 for any
>> >> >>>> tuscany
>> >> >>>> SCA client user .
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> Hi Nishant,
>> >> >>> The work to fix TUSCANY-2251 has turned out bigger than expected.
>> >> >>> It's one of those cases where the first 80%-90% can be done quite
>> >> >>> quickly but supporting the final 10%-20% of cases turns up many
>> >> >>> issues, some of which require changes in other parts of the code.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'm preparing a (large) checkin to update the new generator code
>> >> >>> so that it handles most of the cases (perhaps 95%).  This should be
>> >> >>> enough to get the full build to run with the new code.  However, I
>> >> >>> wouldn't consider the new code to be ready to release at that point.
>> >> >>> It will need quite a bit of further testing and a few more updates
>> >> >>> to take care of the remaining 5% of cases.  Some of these cases will
>> >> >>> require discussion on the list to agree how they should be handled.
>> >> >>> Also, the new code will need testing by people other than myself
>> >> >>> with their scenarios to make sure that it does not break cases that
>> >> >>> worked with the previous Java2WSDL generator.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For all these reasons, I think it will take about another 3 weeks
>> >> >>> to get the new generator code to the state that I would be happy
>> >> >>> to see it enabled in a release.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Regarding TUSCANY-2304, from other emails I see that Ant has sent
>> >> >>> you a patched version of tuscany-sca-all-1.2-incubating.jar that
>> >> >>> contains the fix for your problem.  Can you explain why you need a
>> >> >>> new release in addition to this patch?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  Simon
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> +1 to Simon's comment. Any kind of "fix creep" over what is really
>> required
>> >> is going to make this more than a quick bug fix release.
>> >>
>> >> Simon
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Sowerby MEng MBCS
>>
>



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