I'd be interested in helping with this and have some time now. Raymond, a
while back you said you'd started some prototyping for this, i don't want to
step on your toes if you're actively working it, are you? Is there something
I can help you with or could I just dive in and start trying to get
something going?

   ...ant

On 1/13/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> +1 from me. I agree that this is the right way to go with Axis2,
> implement Axsi2 databindings for the types of objects that we want to
> flow (and that includes SDOs) and let Axis2 handle the rest. We should
> start working on this as soon as our build and source tree layout
> settle, and we'll welcome any help from you and the Axis2 team to help
> us implement and integrate these databindings.
>
> --
> Jean-Sebastien
>
>
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Ant
> >
> > I agree. It seems to me that Tuscany should create the SOAP body and
> Axis2
> > should do the rest. Then we would re-use a lot of existing code.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1/13/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Would an alternative be to have closer integration btw Tuscany and
> Axis2?
> >>
> >> From the brief look I've had at the Tuscany code it seems like it
> really
> >> has
> >> its own completely separate SOAP engine. It builds the SOAP envelope on
> >> its
> >> own and passes that to Axis just for QOS and transport things.
> >>
> >> So could an alternative be to create an Axis2 data binding for SDO's
> and
> >> let
> >> Axis2 handle the constructing of the SOAP envelope? That way Tuscany
> >> wouldn't have to worry about all usual issues like rpc/enc, SOAP 1.1
> /1.2,
> >> attachments, MTOM etc.
> >>
> >>    ...ant
> >>
> >> On 1/12/06, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would like to start the disucssion on AXIS2 integration for Tuscany.
> >>>
> >>> I started to prototype the AXIS2 support for Tuscany web service
> >>>
> >> binding.
> >>
> >>> Following the similar approach as we do for Axis 1.x, the key enabling
> >>> factor is the serialization/deserialization from SDO to AXIOM and vice
> >>> versa. Generally speaking, it's all about the transformations between
> >>> different XML bindings for the same data. Please see the attached the
> >>> diagram for some examples.
> >>>
> >>> As the default data model for Tuscany, SDO DataObject is used to
> >>>
> >> represent
> >>
> >>> the input/output/fault message for web services. (Later on, it could
> be
> >>> pluggable.)
> >>>
> >>> In Axis 1.x, the SOAP envelope is a DOM-based model.
> >>>
> >>> Serialization: SDO --> DOM (SOAP)
> >>> Deserialization: DOM --> SDO
> >>>
> >>> Due to some issues of the DOM support in the SDO 1.0 implementation,
> we
> >>> made some workarounds in the current code base. So the real path may
> >>>
> >> look
> >>
> >>> like this:
> >>>
> >>> Serialization: SDO --> String --> SOAP
> >>> Deserialization: SOAP --> String --> SAX --> SDO
> >>>
> >>> In Axis 2, SOAP messages are modeled using AXIOM (AXis Object Model)
> >>>
> >> which
> >>
> >>> is an XML object model working on StAX (Streaming API for XML) parsing
> >>> optimized for SOAP 1.1/1.2 Messages. The ideal path should be:
> >>>
> >>> Serialization: SDO --> StAX --> SOAP (AXIOM)
> >>> Deserialization: SOAP (AXIOM) --> StAX --> SDO
> >>>
> >>> The StAX support is not there yet in the current SDO implementation.
> So
> >>>
> >> I
> >>
> >>> took a hacky way and managed to make this path work with the Axis2
> >>>
> >> 0.93driver for the outbound Web Service call.
> >>
> >>> Serialization: SDO --> AXIOM (by the special XMLSaveImpl which creates
> >>> AXIOM attributes/elements/text in a similar way as DOM)
> >>> Deserialization: AXIOM --> StAX --> StAX2SAXAdapter --> SAX --> SDO
> >>>
> >>> Now it becomes desirable to have a set of flexible SDO2
> >>> serializer/deserializers (or XMLResource in the SDO/EMF term) as
> >>>
> >> follows:
> >>
> >>> SAX: Generate SAX events from DataObject and load DataObject from SAX
> >>> events
> >>> Stax: Implement StAX XMLStreamReader for a given DataObject and load
> >>> DataObject from XMLStreamReader (potentially can support lazy-loading
> of
> >>> DataObject?)
> >>> DOM: Create DOM tree from DataObject and load DataObject from DOM
> >>>
> >>> IMHO, these utilities will not only benifit the SDO/Axis integration,
> >>>
> >> but
> >>
> >>> also the transformation between SDO and other models like JAXB and
> >>>
> >> XMLBeans.
> >>
> >>> Ideas? Opinions?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Raymond
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paul Fremantle
> > VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
> >
> > http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> >
> >
>

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