A conversation got started on the IRC chat yesterday
that started with the 
directory structure of the samples and spilled over to
the form of down loadable 
release.  To summarize for all this is how it ended:

Samples in svn will be divided by technologies each
will have a "samples" 
directory and there is also a top level directory
(just below tuscany/java) that 
will have "business samples". The name of the
"business samples" was never 
really decided on.  (I thought about it some and came
to like "sampleapps" for 
sample applications, but that just my preference).  In
each of these 
samples/sampleapps directories the structure will be
flat for now but we may 
need to change that as the number of samples grows

So roughly...
tuscany/java/sampleapps/bigbank
tuscany/java/sampleapps/petstore
...
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworld
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldaxis
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldaxis2
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldaxissvc
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldjsonrpc
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldmc
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldweb
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldws
tuscany/java/sca/samples/helloworldwsclient
etc..
tuscany/java/sdo/samples/myfirstsdo
...
tuscany/java/das/samples/dasstarter
tuscany/java/das/samples/dasboot

We agreed that the package names need to be shortened.
I think we agreed that giving samples even short names
was preferable than a 
number scheme.

Now for the release artifacts:
There would be a deliverable download that is just
Tuscany core source, minus 
svn artifacts.  There is a core binary download, and a
download per technology 
samples (i.e. sca/samples, sdo/samples, das/samples).
Also one for the 
sampleapps and once there was more than just BigBank
we'll decide then if it 
needs to be broken up or not.

The core deliverable has Tomcat embedded ready to run
Tuscany with all Tuscany 
jars added including dependencies and configuration
files updated. NO demos, NO 
samples, NO sample application etc. No unit testcase. 
I'm pretty sure this does 
not include Derby needed by just some technologies
either.  It *may* contain as 
of yet an undefined *simple* "smoke test". It has one
prerequisite: a 1.5 level 
JRE.

The other down loadable deliverables should include
Tuscany source only. No svn, 
no maven, and no unit test artifacts. They can include
Ant with shell and bat 
scripts that will build the samples and optionally
deploy them to the Tuscany 
core embedded server. The only prerequisite they
should have is a 1.5 level JDK 
and the Tuscany core.

So roughly the user experience is :
-Have/get JDK/JRE 1.5 level.
-Go to Tuscany download page ... download core
deliverable.
-Unpack core there should be a readme.html at the root
that tells you how to 
start your server.(go to bin startup and also probably
mentions the demos and 
sample downloads etc)

(If you have your own SCA applications already to run
you just need to deploy 
them your done)

(Sample users)
-Download any technology samples or sampleapplication
that appeals to you.
-Unpack sample.  There should should be a readme.htm
at the root that mentions 
the prerequisites guides you through the rest:
-Possibly set some environment variables to point to
core, JDK (JAVA_HOME).
-Run bat or shell script that kicks off an Ant build
of the samples and 
optionally deploys to Tuscany core Tomcat embedded
server.
-The sample readme.htm  has directions to run any bat
shell script for J2SEE 
based samples and links to the running embedded core
WEB based samples.




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