(08:00:13 AM) *ant_:* its 16h on my clock an jsdelfino said to satrt
without him as he may be a few minutes late,
(08:00:40 AM) ant_: but i think we should wait a few minutes to see if
others like jboynes, jmarion, rfeng etc turn up
(08:04:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* hi
(08:04:50 AM) ant_: hi
(08:05:10 AM) ant_: should we start or wait a bit longer?
(08:05:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think we should wait a bit longer to go
through the JIRAs, we need jmarino and jboynes in the room
(08:05:53 AM) *jsdelfino:* to have this discussion
(08:05:53 AM) ant_: =1
(08:05:56 AM) ant_: +1
(08:06:46 AM) ant_: there's a few JIRAs we may be able to clear up
without them. should i start with them?
(08:07:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes
(08:07:16 AM) ant_: These are dups i think:
(08:07:23 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-77
(08:07:24 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-180
(08:07:36 AM) ant_: waiting on spec issues with mike
(08:08:05 AM) ant_: how about close 77
(08:08:39 AM) *jsdelfino:* which option works at the moment? the #? or
the notation as in the .9 spec?
(08:09:04 AM) ant_: i've not looked at what happens, just looked at the
JIRAs
(08:09:23 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, what do u have in the samples?
(08:09:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* any quick answer?
(08:09:28 AM) ant_: this works:
(08:09:28 AM) ant_: <interface.wsdl
interface="http://helloworldaxis.samples.tuscany.apache.org#HelloWorldServiceImpl"/>
(08:09:28 AM) ant_: <binding.ws
port="http://helloworldaxis.samples.tuscany.apache.org#helloworld"/>
(08:09:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok let's close 77, link it with 180
(08:10:27 AM) ant_: and maybe send an email to mike and _if_ theres a
quick response look at chging the code
(08:10:34 AM) *jsdelfino:* and create a new JIRA for a readme item
(08:11:13 AM) ant_: can't that just be part of 180? (there's already so
many JIRAs)
(08:11:18 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes, ok, forget about the readme item, let's
just leave 180 open, close 77, send an email to mike to decide what to
do on 180
(08:11:26 AM) ant_: ok I'll do that
(08:11:26 AM) *jsdelfino:* I'll close 77
(08:11:30 AM) ant_: ok
(08:11:45 AM) *jsdelfino:* without any objections from others, let's
move on to the next
(08:11:48 AM) ant_: Another WSDL one is:
(08:11:49 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-217
(08:12:14 AM) ant_: not sure if we'll have time to do much here, so
maybe move to Mx?
(08:12:33 AM) *jsdelfino:* isn't that fixed now?
(08:12:40 AM) ant_: is it?
(08:12:50 AM) ant_: by who? what did they do?
(08:13:06 AM) *pombred1
[/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/] entered the room.*
(08:13:12 AM) *jsdelfino:* we're using the WSDLDefinition registry now
(08:13:37 AM) *jsdelfino:* who can help test that?
(08:13:45 AM) ant_: is it still a global registry keyed by service NS?
(08:14:01 AM) ant_: if so we've still the problem
(08:14:04 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes, but I'm not sure about its scope
(08:14:23 AM) ant_: even if its module scope we have the problem
(08:14:37 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, I'll ask rfeng to take a look and
investigate, this looks like a serious pb to me, will add a comment to 217
(08:14:56 AM) ant_: lets not assign items to people till later, there's
lots to do
(08:14:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* next
(08:15:04 AM) cr22rc: Ill see if I can repo
(08:15:12 AM) ant_: its easy to repo
(08:15:26 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, cr22rc, do u want to assign to u?
(08:15:56 AM) cr22rc: ok .. I'll investigate .. not sure if i can fix
for m1 .. depends on what I find
(08:15:58 AM) *jsdelfino:* we just need an assessment at this point, and
see if we document it or fix it, please add any assessment/info to the
JIRA so anybody else can pick it up later, thx
(08:16:06 AM) ant_: i think you should leave it then
(08:16:24 AM) cr22rc: ok
(08:16:33 AM) ant_: there's others you probably can fix so you should
look at them if you've spare time
(08:16:47 AM) ant_: eg:
(08:16:48 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-271
(08:17:16 AM) cr22rc: ant you talking to me?
(08:17:21 AM) ant_: yes
(08:17:37 AM) cr22rc: ok I'll take a looksee at that too
(08:17:40 AM) ant_: you did the axis2.xml stuff for the last stable
release so that one is probably easy for you
(08:17:41 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think we can do this, go through the
issues, assign by area of expertise, then we should all look at our JIRA
queue in priority order and if we have too much raise a red flag and we
rebalance work
(08:18:23 AM) *jsdelfino:* 217: status is assign to cr22rc for
investigation, lower prioriity than others that we can fix
(08:18:30 AM) *jsdelfino:* let's move to 271 now
(08:18:55 AM) ant_: are you assigning it? (can we assume you'll update
the JIRAs as we discuss them here?)
(08:19:10 AM) ant_: or i can?
(08:19:20 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes I will do that, don't worry about it, I'm
becoming a JIRA expert now :)
(08:19:39 AM) ant_: ok there's upgrading to Axis2 1.0
(08:19:40 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-306
(08:20:01 AM) ant_: I've tried the binding ant it works fine so its just
the tooling
(08:20:05 AM) *jsdelfino:* what about 271, what do we need to do here,
is this important for this release?
(08:20:33 AM) *jsdelfino:* is anything broken if we leave 271 as-is
(08:20:34 AM) ant_: if its still a problem i don't think we've time to
fix it
(08:20:52 AM) cr22rc: ant when are you getting in 1.0 ?
(08:20:52 AM) *jsdelfino:* ant_, are u talking about 271?
(08:20:55 AM) ant_: if you have multiple WSDLs with the same namespace
(08:21:01 AM) ant_: now yes
(08:21:05 AM) ant_: 271
(08:21:13 AM) ant_: oh no
(08:21:18 AM) ant_: wrong number! sorry
(08:21:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* let's go one at a time :)
(08:21:41 AM) cr22rc: can I ask when axis is being update to 1.0?
(08:21:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* 271, can we leave this out of the release?
(08:22:07 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, can we finish 271 first?
(08:22:13 AM) ant_: 271 is the axis2.xml. we work as is today
(08:22:31 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, 271 is out, unless there's any objections
(08:22:31 AM) ant_: but there's a msg on the console and there's no way
to customize axis2
(08:22:36 AM) cr22rc: I think thats better looked at when the final axis
in place
(08:22:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* agreed
(08:22:48 AM) ant_: which was the next jira:
(08:22:49 AM) *jsdelfino:* 271 out for now
(08:22:51 AM) *jsdelfino:* 306
(08:23:12 AM) cr22rc: still .. when will we have 1.0 in our build ?
(08:23:20 AM) *jsdelfino:* 306 is very important, good news that we have
a 1.0 now
(08:23:21 AM) ant_: i've tried 1.0 with the axis binding and its fine
(08:23:32 AM) ant_: the tooling needs updating
(08:23:40 AM) ant_: we've a patch for java2wsdl:
(08:23:49 AM) ant_: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-103
(08:24:06 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, we assign it to me, I'll apply the patch,
and will update/test wsdl2java as well
(08:24:22 AM) ant_: ok thats
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-267
(08:24:31 AM) ant_: so you have 103 and 267
(08:24:47 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok so then 306 is closed right?
(08:25:13 AM) ant_: no, i need to commit changes to update the pom and
tomcat build xml
(08:25:32 AM) ant_: so i have 306 and can do it independently of your
103 and 267
(08:25:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, are you doing it? or do u need help from
anybody else?
(08:25:40 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, deal
(08:25:44 AM) ant_: will be done rigt after this chat
(08:25:59 AM) *jsdelfino:* we have a plan for 306, 103, 267, next?
(08:26:31 AM) ant_: there's only a couple of axis2 binding ones left 274
and 61
(08:27:17 AM) ant_: 274 is straight forward but needs to be done by someone
(08:27:18 AM) *jsdelfino:* 274 would be nice to have, but I'm ok to
leave it out for now, you tell me what you think
(08:27:41 AM) ant_: should do it, either me rfeng or cr22rc. see who has
time
(08:27:55 AM) cr22rc: i look at it if I get the cycles
(08:28:06 AM) ant_: i'd like 61 done but its harder.
(08:28:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* I agree, 61 is more important
(08:28:38 AM) cr22rc: why?
(08:28:59 AM) ant_: why what?
(08:29:05 AM) *jsdelfino:* 61 is in your face in a regular dev lifecycle
(08:29:10 AM) cr22rc: why is that so important
(08:29:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* 274 is an error case, we all know that error
reporting with SOAP faults is messy anyway
(08:29:34 AM) *pombreda left the room (quit: Connection timed out).*
(08:29:57 AM) cr22rc: but errors are more important than ?wsdl ??
(08:29:57 AM) *jsdelfino:* and the end user experience with 274 is that
the client will just get a messy exception message instead of a nicer,
but still messy exception fault message
(08:30:00 AM) *rfeng [/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/]
entered the room.*
(08:30:04 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, hi
(08:30:44 AM) ant_: so what to do with 61 and 274?
(08:30:47 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think that 61 is more important than 274
(08:31:02 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng had started to look into 61 at some point
(08:31:12 AM) rfeng: hi
(08:31:13 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, can u help with 61?
(08:31:20 AM) rfeng: is 61 ?wsdl?
(08:31:21 AM) ant_: last time i looked (RXx) axis2 was hard coded to use
axis2/services
(08:31:35 AM) *jsdelfino:* 61, yes
(08:31:37 AM) ant_: so it may not be easily fixed
(08:31:48 AM) rfeng: I'll try to fix it completely
(08:32:04 AM) ant_: cool ok
(08:32:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, can u investigate 61 first? there
might be real easy workarounds...
(08:32:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* so don't spend your whole weekend on it, we
have many others
(08:32:44 AM) rfeng: I sure
(08:32:57 AM) ant_: eg, deploy our entrypoints at the url path axis2 uses :)
(08:33:06 AM) rfeng: :-)
(08:33:15 AM) *jsdelfino:* workaround is to place the wsdl somewhere in
the web app where people can browse it, that's very simple
(08:33:20 AM) *jsdelfino:* can be documented
(08:33:25 AM) *jsdelfino:* summary:
(08:33:37 AM) rfeng: i also had a partial fix for 120
(08:33:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* 61 is important to investigate, fix if it's a
quick fix
(08:33:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* wait :)
(08:33:55 AM) *jsdelfino:* 274, cr22rc are u volunteering?
(08:34:38 AM) ant_: i had 120 out of M1 as it seemed hard. would be nice
to get something though
(08:35:01 AM) cr22rc: If rfeng has done work on it ? no... but if no one
has done any work on it I'll look at it
(08:35:04 AM) *jsdelfino:* in terms of priority, 120 higher, 61, 274 lower
(08:35:34 AM) ant_: cr22rc: which jira are you talking about?
(08:35:50 AM) cr22rc: the one jsdelfion asck 274
(08:36:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* summary again: rfeng looking at 120 then 61,
question pending on 274
(08:36:33 AM) cr22rc: ok I'll look at 274 then if rfeng has started on
the others
(08:36:38 AM) ant_: next,
(08:36:41 AM) ant_: next there's a couple of minor issues with
wsdl2java: 264, 109
(08:36:48 AM) rfeng: for 120, I got the java2wsdl working, but find it's
kind of hard to match the tns
(08:37:37 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, please add all comments u have to the
JIRAs ok? this way we can populate the readmes, release notes with the info
(08:37:58 AM) rfeng: sure
(08:38:17 AM) *ant_:* jsdelfino: would you take 264 and 109 as you've
teh other wsdl2java ones?
(08:38:33 AM) ant_: if not i'll have them
(08:38:48 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes I'll take them
(08:38:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* 264 is higher prio than 109
(08:39:06 AM) ant_: next:
(08:39:27 AM) ant_: 65, 275, 280
(08:39:43 AM) ant_: are kind of duplicates
(08:40:06 AM) ant_: 280 could be considered moving to the simplified
extension APIs, which is done so close 280
(08:40:10 AM) cr22rc: why is 65 a bug ? sounds like a feature
(08:40:49 AM) *jsdelfino:* a big bug
(08:40:52 AM) *jsdelfino:* :)
(08:41:03 AM) ant_: these are really critical IMO
(08:41:25 AM) *jsdelfino:* I agree
(08:41:30 AM) cr22rc: for m1 ?
(08:41:32 AM) ant_: not sure how celtix can work without fixing this as
you require axis2 to be there to start tomcat
(08:41:48 AM) ant_: so if we want celtix and tomcat we need to fix this
(08:42:59 AM) ant_: also our entrypoint extension mechanisim isn't so
good like this
(08:42:59 AM) *jsdelfino:* dkulp, what do you think?
(08:43:22 AM) *jsdelfino:* is it critical for you as well? I think so,
but just want to confirm
(08:43:47 AM) *jsdelfino:* in the same bucket we have 63
(08:44:08 AM) ant_: i've had a look based on discussion with jboynes but
i can't get it to work and i've not been able to get anymore time with
him to come up with answers
(08:44:19 AM) cr22rc: Is it realistic for M1 ?
(08:44:40 AM) *jsdelfino:* IMO this is a blocker for M1, what we have at
the moment is a huge hack
(08:44:46 AM) *robbinspg left the room (quit: "Leaving").*
(08:44:51 AM) ant_: yes I agree
(08:45:00 AM) *jsdelfino:* so I'll do this:
(08:45:50 AM) *jsdelfino:* 63 moved to blocker, I think it's blocking
you Ant and probably also Dan who will need to adjust to this "host" API
as well
(08:46:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* we need jboynes + jmarino to determine the
plan for 63
(08:46:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* 65 is yours Ant we leave it open, raise it to
blocker as well, it's blocked by 63
(08:46:34 AM) ant_: 63 is what i was talking to jboynes about and
haven't got to go
(08:46:40 AM) ant_: but yes we need his help
(08:47:12 AM) *jsdelfino:* 275 is about transports
(08:47:31 AM) *jsdelfino:* if there is no solution for this by Monday
it'll drop out of M1
(08:47:43 AM) *jsdelfino:* I'll add comments to 275
(08:47:58 AM) dkulp: Sorry, I'm back.
(08:48:07 AM) *jsdelfino:* 280 as well
(08:48:13 AM) ant_: 280 close?
(08:48:21 AM) *jsdelfino:* 275 is about providing the transport API
(08:48:38 AM) *jsdelfino:* 275 is about porting the binding to use it,
so no, they both stay open, but drop out of the release
(08:48:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* makes sense?
(08:48:54 AM) ant_: ok
(08:49:02 AM) *jsdelfino:* drop out only after the next IRC on monday,
but I'll document the direction in the JIRA issues today
(08:49:05 AM) *jsdelfino:* dkulp, hi
(08:49:26 AM) *jsdelfino:* did you see the discussion on 63, 65, 275,
280, and are u ok with where it's going?
(08:50:11 AM) dkulp: Give me a minute... you guys discuss things too
fast... ;-)
(08:50:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* no problem :) maybe we let you read, move on
to the next JIRAs and u ping us after ok? we'll move back to these
whenever you're ready
(08:50:47 AM) *jsdelfino:* next?
(08:51:30 AM) ant_: thats mainly all the WS code related ones.
JavaScript i'll take 221, 82, 84
(08:51:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* so far we're discussion the JIRAs that Ant
cares about, after Ant's JIRAs we can move to others that people want to
raise
(08:51:55 AM) ant_: also 74
(08:52:19 AM) ant_: so thats it for code. jira's about doc i'm not
including herenow
(08:52:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, could u please do 84 first? it impacts
the packaging
(08:52:33 AM) ant_: ok
(08:52:36 AM) *jsdelfino:* thanks
(08:52:43 AM) *jsdelfino:* so I'm assigning these to you
(08:53:21 AM) ant_: oh one more that doesn't exist yet,
(08:53:35 AM) *jsdelfino:* related question, we have a JIRA about
bigbankJS, what is the status of bigbankJS
(08:53:54 AM) dkulp: OK, caught up.
(08:53:54 AM) ant_: there's a final bit of refactoring in the axis2
binding, moving a couple of classes out of axis2 into core etc
(08:54:08 AM) ant_: dkupl, ok?
(08:54:32 AM) *ant_:* jsdelfino, i assigned it to you earlier today :)
(08:54:47 AM) dkulp: For what we're working on short term, the transport
API and tomcat stuff is somewhat irrelevant for Celtix
(08:54:48 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok :)
(08:54:51 AM) ant_: as you had the other javascript sample one
(08:55:04 AM) ant_: with a comment saying you could give both to me if
you like
(08:55:28 AM) *jsdelfino:* dkulp, any question? concerns? on the 63, 65,
275, 280?
(08:55:46 AM) dkulp: Well, other than the "I'm sure you broke my ability
to compile" issue. ;-)
(08:56:02 AM) ant_: what do you mean?
(08:56:45 AM) dkulp: All of the refactorings over the last 4 days....
I'm having merge conflict issues I'm trying to sort out.
(08:57:03 AM) dkulp: That's my problem, not yours though.
(08:57:43 AM) dkulp: I need to spend more time looking at the new API's
and stuff you added (I was in a conference all week so I'm a bit behind)
(08:57:43 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, which refactorings are you talking about?
is there anything we can do to help?
(08:58:03 AM) ant_: move cetix out of sandbox?
(08:58:03 AM) *jsdelfino:* the changes to the extensibility apis?
(08:58:11 AM) dkulp: Yea, those.
(08:58:23 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok u need to sync up mostly with jeremy and
jim for these
(08:58:29 AM) ant_: dkulp, you're a committer now, do you have update
access?
(08:58:51 AM) dkulp: Dim's hasn't created my account yet. (or at least
no-one sent me a password yet)
(08:59:18 AM) ant_: busy with axis2 1.0 i expect
(08:59:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* dkulp, what's status of tuscany-206?
(09:00:00 AM) *ed_s left the room (quit: ).*
(09:00:24 AM) dkulp: Well, celtix needs to move from sandbox. I then
have a bunch of patches to apply to update it to work with Celtix 1.0
(releasing that today)
(09:00:57 AM) *jsdelfino:* so the work to move it is under tuscany-206
or are we creating a new JIRA for this?
(09:01:03 AM) dkulp: TUSCANY-239 needs to be applied first though.
(09:01:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, so 239, then move to main tree?
(09:01:59 AM) *jsdelfino:* is there anything left to be applied from 206?
(09:02:07 AM) dkulp: No, 206 is closeable.
(09:02:16 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, I'll close it then
(09:02:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* if u don't have update access by eod, just
assign 239 to me, and I'll apply the patch
(09:02:47 AM) dkulp: 239, move to main, 240, then I have a slew of other
changes. (and will have more as I catch up with the extension API changes)
(09:03:29 AM) ant_: so dkulp, you don't sound like our tomcat stuff
having axis2 hardcoded matters to you?
(09:03:43 AM) *SimonL left the room (quit: "Bye").*
(09:03:53 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, let us know if you still don't have
update access, and then assign 240 to me as well
(09:04:05 AM) dkulp: I was expecting that not to be fixed, so I'm
planning on having the Celtix "server side" demo be a "standalone"
server (main method)
(09:04:33 AM) dkulp: Celtix would then control the transport (JMS server
or JETTY HTTP)
(09:04:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, makes sense
(09:04:52 AM) dkulp: However, that was the plan on Monday, I'm not sure
about your new API's yet.
(09:04:59 AM) ant_: so what does that mean for 63 and 65 in M1?
(09:05:13 AM) *jsdelfino:* we still need 63 and 65
(09:05:16 AM) ant_: it still looks quite ugly if we don't fix them
(09:05:18 AM) ant_: yes
(09:05:19 AM) *jsdelfino:* IMO
(09:05:24 AM) ant_: ok
(09:05:25 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok so let's move on
(09:05:37 AM) ant_: so i need to get time with jboynes
(09:05:39 AM) *jsdelfino:* I have a few JIRAs to bring up as well
(09:05:46 AM) ant_: other than that i'm done
(09:05:51 AM) *jsdelfino:* if you still have a little bit a time
(09:05:54 AM) ant_: yes
(09:06:03 AM) *jsdelfino:* 270
(09:06:04 AM) ant_: I do, sorry i took the whole hour
(09:06:12 AM) *jsdelfino:* it's ok that helped a lot!
(09:06:17 AM) *jsdelfino:* thanks!
(09:06:31 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think we need an IRC like that every
morning next week
(09:06:38 AM) *jsdelfino:* everybody will get a tour :)
(09:06:48 AM) *jsdelfino:* just a few from me today, 270
(09:06:54 AM) *jsdelfino:* add async to bigbank
(09:07:03 AM) ant_: how much longer do we have on this chat? i can stay
(09:07:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* ignacio is on the chat, if he can do this
before mid next week I think it should be in M1
(09:07:25 AM) cr22rc: I think I can do that what I propose async logging
(09:08:02 AM) *jsdelfino:* I suggest cr22rc and isilval discuss it later
today
(09:08:31 AM) *jsdelfino:* and islival can make the changes to BB,
cr22rc you're gonna be busy with all the other JIRAs that are not
related to async
(09:08:40 AM) *jsdelfino:* isilval, are you ok with that
(09:08:45 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, ok as well?
(09:08:53 AM) isilval: sure, let me know what you would like done
(09:09:12 AM) cr22rc: well I like to know what is being done before i'm ok
(09:09:15 AM) cr22rc: with it
(09:09:17 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, so u 2 sync up and please update the JIRA
so we all know where this is going
(09:09:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* thx a lot
(09:09:24 AM) isilval: I should be able to do it
(09:10:11 AM) isilval: cr22rc, how would like to go about it
(09:10:21 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok next issue:
(09:10:26 AM) *jsdelfino:* a blocker :)
(09:10:35 AM) cr22rc: I'll append something on that jira
(09:10:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* 170
(09:10:58 AM) isilval: ok, what's the number again?
(09:11:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* 270 for async in BB
(09:11:26 AM) isilval: oh, 270 never mind
(09:11:28 AM) *jsdelfino:* discussing 170 now
(09:11:29 AM) isilval: thx
(09:11:33 AM) isilval: sorry
(09:11:35 AM) *jsdelfino:* blocker from raymond
(09:12:01 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, since you ran into this bug, how about
you help fix it to?
(09:12:03 AM) *jsdelfino:* :)
(09:12:08 AM) cr22rc: what scenario/sample is it blocking ?
(09:12:10 AM) ant_: this is due to axis2 right?
(09:12:41 AM) *jsdelfino:* this is gonna break all WS scenarios with a -
or _ or other special character in an portType or operation name
(09:12:57 AM) ant_: i'm a bit supprised they did 1.0 without fixing
theseissues
(09:12:58 AM) *jsdelfino:* high probability to break
(09:13:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* it's not an issue in axis2
(09:13:22 AM) *jsdelfino:* it's that we and them use diff. name mangling
algorithms
(09:13:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* that's all, consistency
(09:13:36 AM) *jsdelfino:* rfeng, u there?
(09:13:42 AM) ant_: oh ok, so we can fix it
(09:13:51 AM) rfeng: yes
(09:14:10 AM) *jsdelfino:* would you have time to help fix this one?
(09:14:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* changes in either the runtime, or an override
in wsdl2java
(09:14:44 AM) rfeng: oh, yes
(09:15:10 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok will assign to u then, thx
(09:15:12 AM) *jsdelfino:* next:
(09:15:14 AM) *jsdelfino:* 282
(09:15:35 AM) *jsdelfino:* the JIRA says... we need a distribution :)
how about we get this one fixed before we release :)
(09:15:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* this is a top priority
(09:16:09 AM) *jsdelfino:* maybe the highest one on the whole list
(09:16:17 AM) ant_: +1
(09:16:31 AM) dkulp: How should that be approached? Maven assembly plugin?
(09:16:48 AM) dkulp: or ant like stuff?
(09:16:48 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think so... but I'm not a Maven expert
(09:16:51 AM) *jsdelfino:* maven
(09:17:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* dkulp, you know that stuff right? do you
think you could help us jump start this? maybe provide to rick and/or
raymond the starting point
(09:17:43 AM) *jsdelfino:* you're probably gonna be busy with the celtix
binding
(09:17:43 AM) dkulp: It may be best to look at the celtix distribution
(09:17:52 AM) cr22rc: FYI we already sort have some of that in ant
test/tomcat in ant
(09:17:58 AM) ant_: on another chat jboynes said he'd look at this and
its assigned to him, is he coming back soon?
(09:18:17 AM) *jsdelfino:* but pointers like the celtix distro would help
(09:18:45 AM) *jsdelfino:* I assigned it to jboynes, since on our Wiki
discussion jboynes and rfeng volunteered to this
(09:18:47 AM) dkulp: Celtix uses maven to build the shipping packages,
but ours is simple and we don't deal with tomcat overlays and such.
(09:19:19 AM) cr22rc: I think ours is pretty complex ... don't know how
to do it in pure maven
(09:19:31 AM) dkulp: Is tomcat going to be included in the kit?
(09:19:38 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes
(09:19:53 AM) dkulp: Hmm... then yes. It will be very complex.
(09:20:16 AM) cr22rc: .. this is so suited to ant
(09:20:55 AM) ant_: the tool not me right?
(09:21:07 AM) cr22rc: no you :-)
(09:21:18 AM) cr22rc: LOL
(09:21:35 AM) cr22rc: yes the tool
(09:21:58 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok, here's what I suggest, dkulp could you
point us to the celtix distro / some samples, rfeng could you please
take a quick look, to start developing the expertise, then get in touch
with jboynes as soon as you see him and get his input as well, see how
he planned to do it with Maven, and rick, send the to the dev list your
thoughts on how to do it with apache-ant as well?
(09:22:01 AM) dkulp: The problem is you end up hardcoding jar
dependencies and version numbers into the ant scripts.
(09:22:27 AM) dkulp: I'm wondering if it makes sense to use the maven
ant extension to "help" ant.
(09:22:59 AM) *dkulp:* jsdelfino: that sounds fine.
(09:23:00 AM) *jsdelfino:* right, I'm pretty sure jboynes has a good
idea on how to do it with maven, we should get his help to do this in
the right way
(09:23:06 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok thanks
(09:23:14 AM) *jsdelfino:* you guys up for one or two more?
(09:23:20 AM) ant_: yes
(09:23:45 AM) *jsdelfino:* what do we need to do for 261?
(09:23:49 AM) *jsdelfino:* just fix the samples?
(09:24:11 AM) *jsdelfino:* just apply the patch?
(09:25:04 AM) *jsdelfino:* if the answer is yes, can I assign this to
you rick?
(09:25:17 AM) cr22rc: I'll look at it
(09:25:28 AM) cr22rc: not sure if I understand the issue yet
(09:25:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* and BTW we don't need all the Axis
dependencies in the Web apps
(09:26:04 AM) *jsdelfino:* please add comments questions to the JIRA if
the issue is not clear, I'm watching them
(09:26:07 AM) *jsdelfino:* thx
(09:26:09 AM) *jsdelfino:* next: 242
(09:26:21 AM) cr22rc: I thought that was done already
(09:26:30 AM) cr22rc: but I'll check
(09:26:50 AM) *jsdelfino:* maybe it is, maybe not, if you check and
confirm that it's done, you can then close the issue :)
(09:26:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* 242
(09:27:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* anybody cares to make the changes? I think
it'll be easier if a committer does it because it's on the core code
(09:27:57 AM) *jsdelfino:* rick, would u be ok to look at 242?
(09:28:15 AM) cr22rc: hold on need to look at it
(09:28:43 AM) ant_: one thing isn't clear to me is how long we have
left? I've now enough to keep me busy all weekend and maybe late monday
i'll start to be free
(09:28:53 AM) cr22rc: SCDL loader should trim the whitespaces when the
element text is parsed ?
(09:28:59 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes
(09:29:01 AM) ant_: so if we carry on committing cchgs next week i can
do more
(09:29:26 AM) cr22rc: ok assign it to me .. there goes my weekend
(09:29:30 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think we'll need to carry on committing
changes until mid next week
(09:29:53 AM) *jsdelfino:* thx rick :) I think it'll be interesting for
you, this gets you to look at some of the core code
(09:30:15 AM) *jsdelfino:* I'd like to have daily chats next week
(09:30:50 AM) cr22rc: I'm confused by what jim and jeremy are doing in
that sandbox and when is that coming in? Will it clobber work like
fixing this bug?
(09:30:51 AM) *jsdelfino:* and starting on tuesday we control carefully
the JIRAs that go into M1
(09:31:21 AM) ant_: 1st release IRC chat we said go to controlled fix
mode after 28th April
(09:31:38 AM) ant_: so i'd say they may have missed the boat
(09:31:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* I am not sure about this sandbox work, I
think we need more input from them
(09:31:54 AM) *adisakala [/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/] entered the room.*
(09:32:08 AM) cr22rc: +1
(09:32:33 AM) cr22rc: I like to know at least when they think it will be
put into the mainstream
(09:32:45 AM) *jsdelfino:* +1 as well, let's discuss that on the IRC on
monday
(09:33:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok let me check, I had one more JIRA issue I
wanted to bring up today
(09:35:42 AM) *jsdelfino:* 249
(09:36:13 AM) *jsdelfino:* ant you reported this, what's your
assessment? do we need this fixed for M1?
(09:36:50 AM) *jsdelfino:* I thought so, I'm not picturing myself
explaining to people that all the builders are invoked twice all the time
(09:36:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* but wanted your opinion
(09:37:07 AM) ant_: it seems kind of rubish not to fix it but i guess
chances are no one would notice if we don't...unless it gets in the way
of fixing 63/65
(09:37:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* same for another one from Dan...
(09:37:23 AM) ant_: i can't fix it, we need jmarino
(09:37:39 AM) *jsdelfino:* destroy methods never called
(09:37:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* 247
(09:38:10 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok for 249, I keep it as candidate for M1,
we'll discuss it with jim on Monday
(09:38:24 AM) *jsdelfino:* what about 247? dan?
(09:38:44 AM) *jsdelfino:* do you think this is gonna break scenarios
where people stop and restart their apps?
(09:38:57 AM) cr22rc: sorry to break to go off base but are we
packageing as suggested here
http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg01812.html
(09:39:06 AM) *jsdelfino:* could be pretty bad? or benign?
(09:40:11 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, I think we can start with the binary
download, no samples
(09:40:33 AM) dkulp: 247 is ugly, but we can workaround it by calling
System.exit(0)
(09:40:36 AM) *jsdelfino:* then can discuss later if the samples go into
separate downloads or into the same
(09:40:55 AM) dkulp: I hate seeing that in demos, but it works.
(09:41:15 AM) *jsdelfino:* hmm, but it's really ugly right? you wouldn't
want to call System.exit() in a server environment...
(09:41:50 AM) dkulp: Yea, it's quite ugly.
(09:42:01 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok I'll raise its level then
(09:42:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* thanks
(09:42:21 AM) *jsdelfino:* any other hot JIRA issue that you guys would
like to raise?
(09:42:46 AM) ant_: i'm done
(09:43:21 AM) ant_: cr22rc + rfeng, we need to coordinate a bit as we
all have WS binding JIRA to make changes for
(09:44:02 AM) ant_: can we stay on IRC while we're about and talk to
each other about what we're doing?
(09:44:22 AM) *jsdelfino:* one last thing from me:
(09:44:48 AM) cr22rc: 303 302 229 all make for a not so nice development
story
(09:45:16 AM) *jsdelfino:* can you please all mark the issues resolved
when you fix them? I don't care so much about closing, but resolving is
key to get a clear picture of where we actually are...
(09:45:17 AM) *jsdelfino:* thanks
(09:45:29 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, let's take a look at 303 302 229
(09:45:56 AM) cr22rc: can I get a distinction between closing and resolving?
(09:46:03 AM) cr22rc: clarification
(09:46:20 AM) ant_: i do both at once
(09:46:33 AM) *jsdelfino:* it's in the JIRA help
(09:46:36 AM) cr22rc: right so there is no difference for you
(09:46:46 AM) *isilval left the room (quit: ).*
(09:47:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* Resolved A resolution has been taken, and it
is awaiting verification by reporter. From here issues are either
reopened, or are closed.
(09:47:53 AM) *jsdelfino:* Closed The issue is considered finished, the
resolution is correct. Issues which are not closed can be reopened.
(09:48:06 AM) cr22rc: ok
(09:48:08 AM) *jsdelfino:* so if you fix something, mark it resolved
(09:48:30 AM) *jsdelfino:* if you verify that the problem has been fixed
(typically you are the reporter), mark it closed
(09:50:16 AM) ant_: are we done?
(09:50:22 AM) dkulp: Does Dims have an IRC nick or google talk ID or
something so I can ask about my status?
(09:50:36 AM) *jsdelfino:* almost, just need to cover 303 302 229
(09:51:02 AM) *jsdelfino:* my position: 229 should be fixed for M1,
that's what the comment I added to the JIRA
(09:51:31 AM) *jsdelfino:* cr22rc, rfeng, if you have time maybe you can
add 229 to your list?
(09:52:06 AM) *jsdelfino:* it's not very high priority but I agree with
rick that it's a significant issue
(09:52:14 AM) ant_: if jboynes isn't about to talk to me about 63/65
today or over the weekend I will have more time
(09:52:43 AM) cr22rc: not just familar with maven plugins or how that
should be specifed to end user
(09:52:56 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok if 229 gets fixed then 302 and 303 do not
apply anymore to wsdl2java
(09:53:46 AM) *jsdelfino:* and wrt 302 / 303 for xsd2java, I think we
should just document that people need to annotate their XSDs for now
with the annotations defined in the SDO spec
(09:54:16 AM) ant_: dkupl, i thought i had an id for Dims but can't find
it now. maybe just send a mail to the list as he seems to watch it
(09:54:17 AM) *jsdelfino:* I discourage the use of the package name
override anyway, best way to shoot yourself in the foot and create
problems later at runtime
(09:54:28 AM) cr22rc: but that's not a fix
(09:54:43 AM) *jsdelfino:* that's not a fix, that's a readme / release note
(09:54:48 AM) *jsdelfino:* for M1
(09:54:53 AM) *jsdelfino:* and a fix later
(09:55:05 AM) cr22rc: k
(09:55:13 AM) *jsdelfino:* I'll document that in the JIRAs
(09:55:23 AM) *jsdelfino:* I think we're done for today :)
(09:55:32 AM) *jsdelfino:* thanks for staying
(09:55:50 AM) *jsdelfino:* could you guys please take a look at your
JIRA queues later
(09:56:05 AM) ant_: fyi, as i'm on a temp machine i don't have intranet
access so only here on IRC or google talk
(09:56:11 AM) *jsdelfino:* and raise a red flag on the dev list if you
have too much and need help / to rebalance workload
(09:56:27 AM) *jsdelfino:* ok
(09:56:42 AM) cr22rc: done ?
(09:57:03 AM) *jsdelfino:* yes! thanks a lot guys, I'll post the IRC log
to the list later today
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Jean-Sebastien
