Jeremy,
I understand the reasoning (thanks for restating it) and as I
said, this is a good long term goal. The question had been
raised (not by you) about whether or not the samples should
continue to be built as part of the regular build, and I was
responding to that discussion.
Simon
Jeremy Boynes wrote:
And where was I advocating that? I was *pointing out the reasoning*
which was Rick's question so helpfully cut from this thread.
Sorry for trying to be helpful, I'll shut up now.
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Jeremy
On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Simon Nash wrote:
I agree with Andy. An integration test framework ro build and
run the samples is the right long term solution, but until we have
that framework, we should not remove building the samples from
the regular build.
Simon
Jeremy Boynes wrote:
I was pointing out the reasoning behind (which is what Rick asked)
which should be fairly well known given the number of times we have
had this particular discussion.
IMO we need integration tests that pass. That would include testing
the samples. Given the resources required to run real integration
tests it is impractical to run them as part of a developer build.
They should run on a ongoing basis, perhaps using a framework like
Continuum.
A plea to everyone - let's not rehash this all over again unless
something has changed to make it a productive discussion.
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Jeremy
On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Andy Piper wrote:
At 15:21 09/10/2006, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
In many cases building the sample does not actually prove anything as
they are not executed. This applies, for example, to the webapp- based
samples we have. When they are executed, we still don't know that
they run in the end-user environment - e.g. the standalone samples
that run from SCATestCase but which fail to run from the launcher.
Where they should be built/run is as part of an integration test
suite. We don't have that ATM.
Better samples that build and don't run than samples that don't
build at all IMO.
andy
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