On 2/8/07, Dan Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Nope I hadn't done it yet, I wanted to get a go ahead 1st :)
I'll create them now but won't get a chance to put much / any content in
b4
tomorrow... so feel free to pick a page and start work on it... we can
then
all contribute drafts and then use the commenting system in the wiki tro
refine it later...

Everyone ok with this ?

Start page is
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/User+Guide

Cheers,
Dan



On 08/02/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/8/07, Shelita Overton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I think this is a great start. I think it is safe to go ahead and
create
> > this structure.  This will definitely help to avoid
> duplication.  Thanks!
> >
> >
> > On 2/8/07, Dan Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Shelita,
> > >
> > > I'd like to partner with you on writing some documentation and had
> also
> > > started a page on the wiki @
> > >
> > >
> >
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Building+SCA+for+Javawhich
>
> > > has some overlap with Raymonds more recent addition.
> > >
> > > How about we break the getting starting down into a number of
smaller
> > > pages
> > > so we can work on them more easily. I propose:
> > >
> > > User Guide
> > >    + Getting Tuscnay's Java SCA
> > >            + Choosing between a package runtime and building your
own
> > >            + Downloading and installing a release
> > >            + (use the the approach I'm experimenting with @
> > >
http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg13707.html
> )
> > >            + Setting up a build environment
> > >            + Choosing a source / understanding the source tree
> > >            + Building - which bits to build
> > >                  + Debugging build issues
> > >                  + Build tips (eg. use of mvn -fn to continue
building
> > > despite test case failures)
> > >    + Setting up an "SCA Developer" environment (cover both command
> line
> > > and
> > > IDEs (Eclipse and others)) suitable for a user of Tuscany (as
opposed
> to
> > a
> > > developer of)
> > >    + Developing a simple SCA composite containing a single component
> > >            + Initial project setup (is there an alternative to maven
> ?)
> > >            + Developing a simple component
> > >            + Unit testing and debugging a component
> > >    + Composing components into composites
> > >            + Exposing the composite to the outside world (define the
> > > service binding)
> > >                    + Web Services, JMS etc
> > >            + Resolving dependencies not contained in the composite
> > > (defining the reference bindings)
> > >                    + Web Services, JMS - others ?
> > >            + Reusing components in composites
> > >    + Deploying to server runtime (eg. tomcat & geronimo ?)
> > >    ( + Managing / monitor / changing components & composites )
> > >    ...
> > >
> > > I think it might also bring up some interesting things to
consider...
> > for
> > > example, "How can I reuse components in a composite without copying
it
>
> > > from
> > > another project ?"
> > >
> > > If folks agree with this structure (or similar) then I'll go ahead
and
> > > create it - I think it would be a good idea to agree some structure
> > > upfront
> > > to avoid duplication (which seems likely unless we have one author).
> > >
> > > WDYT ?
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On 07/02/07, Raymond Feng < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just added a draft @
> > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Getting+Started
.
> We
> > > > might
> > > > be able to use it as a starting point and add more meat into it to
> > help
> > > > new
> > > > users understand the basic concepts, steps and tools to develop a
> > simple
> > > > SCA
> > > > application with Tuscany.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Raymond
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "haleh mahbod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: < [email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Suggestions for Tuscany SCA documenation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Shelita,
> > > > > Welcome to Tuscany. We definitly need help with documentation :)
> > > > >
> > > > > A starting point might be a user giude on  how to develop a
simple
> > SCA
> > > > > application. This document can then incrementally grow to  cover
> > more
> > > > > advanced topics.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another project might be to work on an SCA user doc with
examples.
> > > This
> > > > > would provide a quick reference to SCA rather than requiring
> people
> > to
> > > > > read
> > > > > all the specifications.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be happy to join you in this effort. We can start using
> > > > Confluence
> > > > > Wiki to work on the documents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the 'user guide' sound like a good starting point for you?
> > > > >
> > > > > What do others think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Haleh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/7/07, Rick Rineholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hello,
> > > > >> If your totally new to SCA/Tuscany having a fresh pair of eyes
> > > looking
> > > > >> at first understanding SCA, looking at our website how easy it
is
>
> > to
> > > > >> find resources, how well those were, then moving on to the
> samples
> > in
> > > > M2
> > > > >> and then try and understand how contribute to Tuscany itself
and
> > > along
> > > > >> the way provide feedback and updates can be always
beneficial.  I
> > > think
> > > > >> that's ground anyone first starting out would initially have to
> > cover
> > > > to
> > > > >> some degree or another.
> > > > >> If your not new, you'll need to give some background and where
> your
> > > > >> interests are in general.
> > > > >> .
> > > > >> Shelita Overton wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi I would like to help with creating some documenation for
> > Tuscany
> > > > >> > SCA...
> > > > >> > Does anyone have any suggestions on what should be covered
> first?
> > > > >> > Priority?
> > > > >> > Any content that could be used as a starting point?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ~Shelita Overton
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> Hi Dan
>
> Have you already created this? If so I'll go edit ti myself, If not I
> suggest we have a section
>
> "Running the samples"
>
>
> coming after the first section which describes how to get the code. If I
> remember correctly there is some automation of this already in
place  but
> it
> would be good to have some descriptive text and suggestions about which
> ones
> to try first and also the kind of things that might go wrong.
>
> Simon
>

Great Dan, go for it.

Simon

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