Ta, Actually Jeremy and Jim did most of it.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 March 2007 20:44
>> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ServerSide Presentation and Demo
>>
>> Jim and Meeraj,
>> Congratulations! Any chance the presentation was taped?
>> --Kevin
>>
>>
>> Jim Marino wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We just finished the ServerSide demo and I figured I send
>> a mail to
>> > the list outlining how it went...
>> >
>> > We had the slot following the opening keynote and were up
>> against Rod
>> > (Spring) and Patrick (OpenJPA) as the other two talks. I was
>> > surprised to find that the ballroom was pretty full. I
>> gave the talk
>> > and the demo showing end-to-end federated deployment and reaction
>> > seemed very positive. Meeraj gets the "hero" award for
>> staying up to
>> > an obscene hour in the morning to implement a JMS-based discovery
>> > service as we encountered last-minute hiccups with JXTA.
>> >
>> > My observations are:
>> >
>> > - After speaking with people after the presentation,
>> feedback on the
>> > value of SCA was consistent. Specifically, they thought the
>> > programming model was nice but not a differentiator. What
>> people got
>> > excited about was being able to dynamically provision services to
>> > remote nodes and have a representation of their service
>> network. In
>> > this respect, I think the demo worked well. Two people
>> said they need
>> > what the demo showed for projects they currently have underway.
>> >
>> > - People asked how SCA is different than Spring. They reacted
>> > positively when I said "federation" and "distributed
>> wiring". Related
>> > to this, people get dependency injection (i.e. it's
>> old-hat) and just
>> > seem to assume that is the way local components obtain references.
>> >
>> > - People seemed to react positively when I compared SCA to
>> Microsoft
>> > WCF
>> >
>> > - People liked the idea of heterogeneous service networks
>> and support
>> > for components written in different languages, particularly C++.
>> >
>> > - People didn't ask about web services. People were nodding their
>> > heads (in agreement) when I talked about having the runtime select
>> > alternative bindings such as AMQP and JMS.
>> >
>> > - People want modularity and choice. Two areas they wanted
>> choice in
>> > was databinding and persistence. They liked the fact that
>> we are not
>> > locked into one databinding solution and that we have JPA
>> integration.
>> > (as an aside, they also liked that SDO can be used without SCA).
>> > Spring integration was also popular.
>> >
>> > - People also liked the idea of a 2MB kernel download. One person
>> > mentioned they only want to download what they intend to
>> use and not a
>> > lot of extra "clutter".
>> >
>> > - People wanted to know how SCA is different than an ESB.
>> I basically
>> > described it using the switch vs. router metaphor and how
>> a component
>> > implementation type can be a proxy for an ESB. Related to this and
>> > point-to-point wires, people thought wire optimization by the
>> > Controller was cool.
>> >
>> > - People seemed to be more interested in running Tuscany as a
>> > standalone edge server or embedded in an OSGi container. I
>> didn't get
>> > any questions about running Tuscany in a Servlet container or J2EE
>> > application server. This seems to be consistent with there being a
>> > number of talks on server-side OSGi.
>> >
>> > My big takeway is that we need to make the demo a reality.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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