On 5/2/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought Ant's suggestion was just 0.90 and not beta anything.  I can
live with this.  I don't think we are ready yet to call it beta 1.0
or beta1 1.0.

   Simon

haleh mahbod wrote:

> why does it matter if we call it beta1 or beta .90? It is a variation of
> what we call beta. The fact that there is a number after Beta is an
> indication that there might be revisions of Beta anyway before 1.0release
> is reached.
>
>
> On 5/2/07, Ignacio Silva-Lepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> +1 on 0.90
>>
>> On 5/2/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > It would be good to choose a name soon so we can start completing all
>> the
>> > readme's and release notes etc, there doesn't seem much consensus on
>> beta1
>> > so how about 0.90? That sounds closer to 1.0 than M3 or alpha and
still
>> > gives space for more releases before the final 1.0.
>> >
>> >   ...ant
>> >
>> > On 5/1/07, Bert Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I realize I'm a bit late to this conversation, I'm just now getting
>> > > mostly unpacked from a move to Somerville, MA.  I agree with Simon
in
>> > > that we should be careful what we call "beta".  I know that we all
>> > > would like to get to beta quality code and features as soon as we
>> can,
>> > > but I don't think we are there yet nor will we be there by JavaOne.
>> > > What we currently have in the trunk I think is a much more
manageable
>> > > code base but it actually has fewer features, if I'm not mistaken,
>> > > than M2 had.  So, my vote, if I had a binding one, would be for 3,
>> > > with a name of M3 or maybe alpha.
>> > >
>> > > -Bert
>> > >
>> > > On 4/25/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > On 4/24/07, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > <snip/>
>> > > >
>> > > > So I think it comes down to whether it is more important to put
>> > > > > something out by JavaOne (in which case I'd be hesitant to
>> call it
>> > > > > "beta") or whether it is more important to attain a true "beta"
>> > level
>> > > > > of quality even if that takes a little bit longer.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I guess a lot comes down to everyones slightly different
>> perceptions
>> > as
>> > > to
>> > > > what the name "beta" implies, what do others think about this?
>> Should
>> > > we:
>> > > >
>> > > > 1) continue aiming for a beta1 release around JavaOne timeframe
>> > > > 2) continue with a beta1 release but take a bit more time
>> > > > 3) aim for a release around JavaOne timeframe but change to a
>> > non-"beta"
>> > > > release name, alpha-x or maybe a numeric like 0.90?
>> > > >
>> > > > I probably favor (2) as looking at things people have said they'd
>> like
>> > > to
>> > > > get done it seems unlikely to me we'll be ready by JavaOne
anyway.
>> > > >
>> > > >    ...ant
>> > > >
>> > >
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+1 to using 0.90 (over reverting to M3 say). After this is done we should
take the time discuss here what everyone thinks the gap is between what we
have and what a beta would contain.

Simon

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