Hi Haleh, yes it seems so :).  Let me look up and then post back.. thanks.

- Venkat

On 6/1/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Venkat,

It looks like we posted a response to Ant's message at the same time and
missed each other's email and my changes show up on the site. Is the flow
of
information OK?

Basically the old releases page linked to from the .90 page would be the
page that you have suggested.
Haleh

On 5/31/07, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Done!
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
> > I'll run a manual autoexport to fix it.
> > You should see the changes in about 2 mins
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Hernan
> >
> > Luciano Resende wrote:
> >> Why it shows in [1] and not in [2] ?
> >>
> >> [1] http://cwiki.apache.org/TUSCANY/home.html
> >> [2] http://cwiki.apache.org/TUSCANY/
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/31/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I've changed the home page to include a box highlighting the latest
> >>> releases.  Let me know if it seems ok
> >>>
> >>> - Venkat
> >>>
> >>> On 5/31/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I made the following updates:
> >>> > Tuscany Download page, 'SCA Java' is linked to [1]
> >>> > on [1], Other release DOWNLOAD is linked to the old Java SCA
> >>> Download page
> >>> > (old releases)
> >>> >
> >>> > To do:
> >>> > [1] could be renamed to SCA Java Latest Release. This page could
> >>> always
> >>> > hold
> >>> > info about the latest release.
> >>> > [2] could be renamed to SCA Java previous Releases.
> >>> > [2] needs to be updated to the format that we discussed earlier on
> >>> this
> >>> > thread
> >>> >
> >>> > If this looks OK, I go ahead and make the changes for the 'to do'
> >>> list.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+0.90-incubating
> >>>
> >>> > [2]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Downloads
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 5/31/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Ok, I've added a new download page for the SCA Java 0.90 release
> >>> which
> >>> > > hopefully isn't to far away from whats been talked about:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+0.90-incubating
> >>>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Its not linked to from anywhere yet as I'm not sure after all
this
> >>> > > discussion where to put it. The main things I think would be
good
> >>> are to
> >>> > > not
> >>> > > have to click through many links to get to the actual download
> >>> link for
> >>> > a
> >>> > > latest release and for it to be quite obvious what the current
> >>> latest
> >>> > > release is of something and its not obscured that with lots of
old
> >>> > > download
> >>> > > links.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I wondered if the download page pointed to from the "General"
> >>> menu box
> >>> > > could
> >>> > > be  expanded to have links to each of the current download pages
> >>> (the
> >>> > > above
> >>> > > SCA+Java+0.90-incubating etc) and at the bottom another link to
a
> >>> page
> >>> > > with
> >>> > > all the old downloads?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >    ...ant
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 5/30/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Hi
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > What we are attempting to do now it really far better than
> >>> cluttering
> >>> > > all
> >>> > > > the downloads together on one page.  Here is what I think
about
> >>> this
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > - for every Release (SCA / SDO / DAS) have a separate page
> >>> whose first
> >>> > > > section talks about what comprises of that release (including
> spec
> >>> > > levels
> >>> > > > etc.) and then have a next section that is titled 'Downloads'.
> >>> > > > - then have a single page titled 'Releases' where we list all
> the
> >>> > > releases
> >>> > > > and each entry is a link to the separate Release page.  Here
> >>> again we
> >>> > > > could
> >>> > > > choose to have SCA Releases, SDO Releases, DAS Releases on
> >>> diff. pages
> >>> > > or
> >>> > > > just have all in one under diff sections.
> >>> > > > - Finally from the global home page and the home page of the
> >>> > subprojects
> >>> > > > have a menu item 'Releases' that will point to the 'Releases'
> >>> page.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > This way, with every release we simply have to go an make the
> >>> specific
> >>> > > > release page and add a link to the Releases page.   I had
> >>> created a
> >>> > > > Release
> >>> > > > page for the recent SDO Release without the Downloads section
> >>> > > > though.  Here
> >>> > > > it is just for people to get an idea of what I mean
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SDO+Java+1.0-incubating-beta1
> >>>
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > When creating these Release pages my request is that we
> >>> maintain the
> >>> > > page
> >>> > > > hierarchies. For example the release page for the SCA
0.90release
> >>> > > should
> >>> > > > be
> >>> > > > added under Home->SCA Overview->SCA Java->Releases->SCA 0.90
> >>> Release.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > By the way there is a SCA Java and a SCA Java Subproject page
-
> >>> can we
> >>> > > > merge
> >>> > > > these two into one.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Thanks
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > - Venkat
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On 5/30/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > I am including tuscany-users to get their opinion if
> interested.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Here are my thoughts influenced by your comments :)
> >>> > > > > - Separate the download information for latest release from
> >>> the old
> >>> > > > > releases.
> >>> > > > > - Having the text of the change file/read me  on the front
> >>> page of
> >>> > the
> >>> > > > > download page is good. This makes it easier to identify what
> >>> is in
> >>> > the
> >>> > > > new
> >>> > > > > release. So, added a section called 'what's new in this
> >>> release'.
> >>> > > > > - It is good to have download  information for at least the
> >>> back 2
> >>> > > > > releases.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > - It is useful to know what level of spec is supported by
each
> >>> > > release.
> >>> > > > > For
> >>> > > > > example, for SCA there are several specs. A release can be
at
> >>> > Assembly
> >>> > > > > 1.0level and an older version of Client spec.
> >>> > > > > - Having a page that  takes user to all the downloads[2] is
> >>> good.
> >>> > > > > - Having a download page per subproject is good since  the
> >>> audience
> >>> > > for
> >>> > > > > each
> >>> > > > > download page may be different. For example, someone using
> >>> SDO may
> >>> > not
> >>> > > > > necessarily want to download SCA.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Here is an attempt for a sample download page which
> incorporates
> >>> > your
> >>> > > > > feedback [1]
> >>> > > > > User will reach[1] from [2]  (not linked yet)
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > [1]
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Java+SCA+Download+Page
> >>>
> >>> > > > > [2]
> >>> > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Tuscany+Downloads
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Does it look OK?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On 5/29/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > The idea of a single download page sounds good, but if we
> are
> >>> > > thinking
> >>> > > > > > about tracking page visitors to correlate to the number of
> >>> > > downloads,
> >>> > > > > > we won't be able to identify if the person is visiting the
> >>> page to
> >>> > > > > > download SCA, SDO or DAS.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > On 5/29/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > I agree it would be good to not duplicate things for
each
> >>> > > > downloadable
> >>> > > > > > > artifact associated with a release. Not sure it really
> >>> needs the
> >>> > > day
> >>> > > > > of
> >>> > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > release or the assembly spec info either.
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > And +1 to having old release downloads on a separate
> >>> page. I'm
> >>> > not
> >>> > > > > sure
> >>> > > > > > if
> >>> > > > > > > this is the proposal but could there be a single
download
> >>> page
> >>> > > that
> >>> > > > > has
> >>> > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > current latest release of each of SCA, SDO and DAS?
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > >    ...ant
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > On 5/29/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > My understanding is that you moved the release name
and
> >>> date
> >>> > > from
> >>> > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > "download section"  to the "download table". If they
are
> >>> > always
> >>> > > > same
> >>> > > > > > > > for a group of downloads, won't it take space from the
> >>> page by
> >>> > > > > > > > repeating it on each table row ?
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > Also, do we want to keep all past releases available
on
> >>> the
> >>> > main
> >>> > > > > > > > download page ? Maybe we could have an separate
archive
> >>> page,
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > > > only
> >>> > > > > > > > the latest release available in the main download
page,
> >>> this
> >>> > > would
> >>> > > > > > > > encourage people to always use the latest stable stuff
?
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > On 5/29/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > 1) Would [1] be a better format & content  for each
> >>> download
> >>> > > > page
> >>> > > > > > > > of  than
> >>> > > > > > > > > what we have today [2]?
> >>> > > > > > > > > If yes, I'll start upgrading the pages.
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > 2) We currently use the same page to record download
> >>> info
> >>> > for
> >>> > > > > > > > technologies.
> >>> > > > > > > > > For example, SCA Native and Java download pages are
> the
> >>> > same.
> >>> > > > > > > > > It would be cleaner if we separate the pages. For
> >>> example, a
> >>> > > > Java
> >>> > > > > > SCA
> >>> > > > > > > > and a
> >>> > > > > > > > > Native SCA download page which gets linked to from a
> >>> common
> >>> > > > > > > > > download page entry point [3]
> >>> > > > > > > > > Does this seem reasonable?
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > [1]
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Java+SCA+Download+Page
> >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > [2]
> >>> > > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Downloads
> >>> > > > > > > > > [3]
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Tuscany+Downloads
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Haleh
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > --
> >>> > > > > > > > Luciano Resende
> >>> > > > > > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> >>> > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >>> > > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
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