On 7/16/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ant wrote:
> So no problem, when someone comes along we want to grant access just
discuss
> and vote on the private list and we can just give them access.

+1

On 7/15/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Apache CWIKI page is now quite clear about this (not sure what
changed,
> i thought some cwiki page used to say the opposite?) -
>
> "An individual person contributing documentation in this way is not
required
> to be a "committer", but he or she does need to file a CLA, so that
there is
> no doubt that the individual intends to contribute the copyright on the
> documentation to the ASF. Of course, whenever anyone makes "welcome and
> sustained contributions" to the documentation, it is appropriate to
invite
> that person to become a committer and PMC Member, and share in the
decision
> making." - see http://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/.
>
> So no problem, when someone comes along we want to grant access just
discuss
> and vote on the private list and we can just give them access. If we
could
> get cwiki change emails sent to the tuscany-commit mailing list so its
easy
> to give some oversight then I'd be in favour of a very low bar of entry.
>
>    ...ant
>
> On 7/15/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I think that we should consider the idea of "Website Wiki
committership"
> > separately from "Code committership".
> >
> > I don't think that it should be necessary for someone to have Code
> > committership in order to be granted update access to the
Website/Wiki.
> >
> > I do agree that it needs to be controlled, but that we should draw up
a
> > wider list of folk who are allowed to edit material on the
Website.  As
> > has been pointed out, updates to the website have slowed down since we
> > restricted write access.  This is not good.  Our website needs plenty
of
> > work.
> >
> >
> > Yours,  Mike.
> >
> > Luciano Resende wrote:
> > > My only concern is that, after we restricted access to our wiki, and
> > > started using the process of JIRA or updates on the other wiki
space,
> > > the website contributions basically stopped. I think we had only one
> > > JIRA created on this space.
> > >
> > > On 7/13/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/13/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > I was referring to the following paragraph...
> > >> >
> > >> > "a CLA is required for cover substantial contributions for
source.
> > >> therefore
> > >> > wiki karma must only be granted those with a CLA."
> > >>
> > >> Yes but that doesn't mean that the converse is also true, ie just
> > >> having a
> > >> CLA doesn't give the right to be granted wiki karma.
> > >>
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >> > Robert also says later on :
> > >> >
> > >> > "a committer is essentially a developer with a CLA "
> > >>
> > >> and also that "provenance needs to be established and oversight
> > >> maintained"
> > >>
> > >> > If we have control to who gets access, and we are covered, on the
> > >> > legal aspects, by having the CLA in place, we should be Ok.  What
are
> > >> > your concerns here ?
> > >>
> > >> As with the code, it requires more than just having a CLA to be
granted
> > >> commit access to our SVN.
> > >>
> > >> > The other two alternatives I see are :
> > >> >
> > >> >    - Make wiki patches, or copies from "ocpy of the website wiki"
> > >> >    - Make all website contributors a Tuscany committer
> > >>
> > >> +1, both of these seem appropriate to me. People can raise JIRAs
and do
> > >> proposed updates on the TUSCANYWIKI space, once they've proven
> > >> themselves we
> > >> can vote them in as a website committer just like from code
> > >> contributions.
> > >>
> > >>    ...ant
> > >
> > >
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Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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+1 sounds like the right level of control to me.

Simon

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