Hello,
  I have been asking newbie questions to this forum. And people have
been very helpful.

  Those newbie questions were for a Apache Lab project named Fluid -- to
explore possibilities
of SDO persistence using JPA API. 

  With all your help, I could put together an initial proptotype that
creates/updates/queries 
SDO using JPA API. I used Tuscany and OpenJPA for SDO and JPA
implementation respectively.

   Further details of this project (with user documentation) can be
found at

     http://people.apache.org/~ppoddar/fluid/site/welcome.html

   Your comments/suggestions are most welcome --


Pinaki Poddar
972.834.2865

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Budinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: How does xsd:ID property type is distinguished from
xsd:string

EAttribute.isID() will only be true if the type is xsd:ID.

Frank.

"Pinaki Poddar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/24/2007 05:31:09 PM:

> Hi Frank,
>    > Database IDs (e.g., primary and foreign keys) are more related to

> xsd:key/xsd:keyref, then xsd:ID, but fortunately SDO 3 is planning to 
> address all of them :-)
> 
>   Thanks for telling me this.
> 
>   Now is ((property.getType().isDataType()) &&
> ((EAttribute)property).isID())) == true for a property p that is 
> declared as xsd:key or xsd:keyref?
> 
>   Or broadly, what is the semantics of Eattribute.isID()?
> 
> 
> Pinaki Poddar
> 972.834.2865
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Budinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: How does xsd:ID property type is distinguished from 
> xsd:string
> 
> Hi Pinaki,
> 
> Identity support is also in the SDO 3 charter: Support for a concept 
> of identity in SDO, and its relationship to other technologies.
> 
> Database IDs (e.g., primary and foreign keys) are more related to 
> xsd:key/xsd:keyref, then xsd:ID, but fortunately SDO 3 is planning to 
> address all of them :-)
> 
> Frank.
> 
> "Pinaki Poddar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/24/2007 11:02:21 AM:
> 
> > Hi Frank,
> >   Thanks.
> > 
> > > SDO (SDO 3) is planning to provide an api for accessing extended 
> > > XSD
> > metadata
> > 
> >   That is good news. However, identity mechanics should appear more 
> > distinctly on API surface e.g.
> >    boolean Proprty.isIdentifier();
> >    List<Property> Type.getIdentifiers();
> > 
> > I will qualify absence of any identity semantics from SDO a major 
> > drawback. Especially, if it comes to any persistence operation on 
> > SDO DataObject/DataGraph. Hopefully some of the SDO spec writers 
> > would notice this omission and add it to future spec version.
> > 
> > After a quick pick in current DAS implementation, it appeared that 
> > 'primary key' identification is based on existing database column 
> > name
> 
> > "ID" (yes, hardcoded) -- but I may be wrong and am ready to learn 
> > how DAS is handling identity issue.
> > 
> > > SDO (SDO 3) is planning to provide an api for accessing extended 
> > > XSD
> > metadata
> > That is a good decision. Wrapping should always provide access to 
> > what
> 
> > is being wrapped.
> > 
> > > downcasting to the EMF implementation class
> > 
> > Thanks for this info. I will do this for now. But I heed your advice

> > and have already a scheme in place that programs against *only* 
> > commonj.sdo API but can access underlying implementaion, if 
> > available,
> 
> > without any compile-time binding.
> > Slightly costly -- but works for, say, extracting package name from 
> > Types.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pinaki Poddar
> > 972.834.2865
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Budinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: How does xsd:ID property type is distinguished from 
> > xsd:string
> > 
> > Hi Pinaki,
> > 
> > They can't be distinguished in the current version of SDO metadata, 
> > you need to look at the original XSD. The next version of SDO (SDO 
> > 3) is planning to provide an api for accessing extended XSD 
> > metadata. In Tuscany, you can currently determine this by 
> > downcasting to the EMF implementation class, although we don't
recommend people do that:
> > 
> >       System.out.println("  Property isID: " +
> > ((property.getType().isDataType()) && 
> > ((EAttribute)property).isID()));
> > 
> > Frank.
> > 
> > "Pinaki Poddar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/24/2007 01:00:03 AM:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > A newbie question:
> > >    How does two Property: one defined as xsd:string and other as 
> > > xsd:ID can be distiguished?
> > > 
> > > Assume:
> > >  1. we have a simple XML schema defining a Person SDO Type with 
> > > two properties as follows:
> > >     <xsd:complexType name="Person">
> > >          <xsd:attribute name="firstName" type="xsd:string"/>
> > >          <xsd:attribute name="id"        type="xsd:ID"/>
> > >     </xsd:complexType>
> > > 
> > >  2. TypeHelper.INSTANCE.define()
> > >     defines SDO Type with two commonj.sdo.Property, p1 (for
> > > firstName)
> > 
> > > and p2 (for id)
> > > 
> > >  3. both p1.getType().getInstanceClass() and
> > > p2.getType().getInstanceClass() return java.lang.String
> > >     both p1.getType().isDataType() and p2.getType().isDataType() 
> > > return true
> > > 
> > > The question is, what can be done to identify p2 as a property 
> > > that were defined as xsd:ID?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your help --
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pinaki Poddar
> > > 972.834.2865
> > > 
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